Coming from 2.4 Ubnt do you think it would meet or exceed capacity?

Josh Luthman
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On Jun 7, 2016 2:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> I have tried a few, one short link through trees is still in service, but
> if the trees are near the customer it is unimpressive.  You can probably
> replace any 2.4 FSK customers, but the NLOS ones are going to be 2X or 4X
> or MIMO-A, so not taking advantage of the 450 capabilities and eating up
> airtime on an expensive platform with probably a 10 MHz channel.
>
> LOS however it rocks.
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>
>
> Has anyone tried 450 3.65 for near Los situations like this discussion?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 7, 2016 2:46 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4
>> 450 AP. And you'll probably get a better pattern on a sector vs omni. A
>> V-pol omni doesn't typically have a horrible pattern though. Except for
>> vertical beamwidth. Then you play with electronic downtilt models, etc. So
>> it's probably moot as far as Rx power levels go between the two.
>>
>> We get OK penetration on the 2.4 450 sector we have up. Not so much the
>> noise at the tower as it is at the SMs. We're going to get rid of it
>> eventually along with all of the other 2.4 shit. It's a dead band just like
>> 900 to us now.
>>
>> On 6/7/2016 1:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Omni to a sector, of course.  You're probably getting more than 2 db
>> unless it was a bonkers big omni and super small sector.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I have moved from pmp100 to 450 on 2.4ghz. Didn't do a cluster though.
>>> Went from a 2.4FSK on a 12db Omni to a two 450 sectors from KP 120 beam
>>> width (think 14db) . Was able to hook up every single customer I has on the
>>> FSK to the 450 and some were near-LOS. The 450 in 2.4ghz actually has
>>> impressively decent nLOS. I think its a lot better than the 3.65 for NLOS.
>>> ( I have used all the 450 frequency bands except 900)
>>>
>>> If you thinking about going 450 in 2.4 and you already have FSK up on
>>> 2.4 and nothing abmormal with your noise floor then do it. You'll love it.
>>> The 450 is actually better because you can run 10-mhz channels to get
>>> around some of the noise in 2.4 vs the FSK which was stuck at 20mhz
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So has anyone moved a PMP100 2.4 cluster too PMP450 2.4 and how did
>>>> that go?  With PMP100 in 2.4 we do pretty good on near LOS
>>>> connections.  Only deployed PMP450 in 3.6 and 5ghz so far though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti we tried and
>>>> > some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
>>>> > have not deployed more then couple test links.
>>>> >
>>>> > For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
>>>> > you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance among others?
>>>> >
>>>> > For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?
>>>>
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