I do have a couple of coke zeros each day.  But I skipped all sodas for a year 
and nothing changed.  The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal diet. 
 

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that 
artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an 
indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended 
effect (they contribute to weight gain).



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I need the gut biome of a skinny guy.

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

  There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar 
addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health.

  On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs.
    Not so good at solving arguments.  

    From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

    I completely agree with this.

    You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to 
happen.



    For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet 
with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-)







    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
    Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



    You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want.

    I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc.

    Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities.



    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    Midwest Internet Exchange

    The Brothers WISP






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    From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

    Recent studies say otherwise.  A myth promulgated by Special K.  



    From: Mike Hammett 

    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM

    To: af@afmug.com 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



    Not having breakfast is part of your problem.



    -----
    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions

    Midwest Internet Exchange

    The Brothers WISP






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    From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

    While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect 
on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much.  And I don’t think 
you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize 
your food.  Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies.  My wife 
is Swedish and wants nothing but meat.  I don’t ever want meat.  



    I wish I could just cut back.  It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the 
numbers say I do.  Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave 
meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening.  Not lots of 
snacks.  Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is 
up. 



    Perhaps meth is the answer.  Have been watching Breaking Bad straight 
through since the holidays.  Just started the final season yesterday.



    From: Bill Prince 

    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM

    To: af@afmug.com 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



    You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz 
(https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). 

    Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when 
he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he 
asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. 
Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a 
study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his 
theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. 

    The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) 
diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.

    Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that 
turns the Mediterranean diet on its head.



bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

      The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm 
rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s 
and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current 
social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root 
cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. 



      Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?








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