I wish 20 years were realistic to meet those goal, more like a century. too
many "activists". If you can match the taste, texture, and juice of a
ribeye with all the same cooking qualities, I dont care if its soylent
green.
The 20 year list, especially in the factory jobs is not based on any real
number other than an extreme faith in technology i would guess. If we ever
did get to the point you describe, a socialist government would be
feasible, potentially even sustainable, and it would be met with extreme
violence.

In my perfect world we figure out the sticky guts that hold everything
together so everything can be recycles. Want a steak, look up the recipe
for the number of electrons, protons, neutrons, whatever ons you need, dump
them in the black box with some of the goo glue. Take your dump right into
a recycler that separates everything back into base components. Full
nuclear power to keep the grinders running since we would be able to
separate everything back into the base units we can clean up the radiation.

Fallout is a great series, Ive played it from the beginning, f*%k virtual
reality, in my future we play in real time

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> A lot of the hormone, pesticide, and antibiotics problems will go away
> with lab grown meat. It is going to allow flavor and fat replication,
> 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy
> requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed
> those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of
> antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant
> bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is
> what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate
> is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to.
>
> In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to:
> Most coal miners (alternative energy increases)
> Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely)
> Most taxi drivers
> Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course)
> Quite a few farmers (less need for crops)
> Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled
> machinists, engineers, etc)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails
> >
> > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier than
> > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by
> > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to me,
> > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones
> ingested in
> > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated
> globally.
> > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified
> food,
> > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is
> > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of nonsense
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break down
> >> to sugar), fat resources.
> >>
> >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will
> naturally
> >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a
> sample
> >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or not.
> >>
> >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> genetics is a bitch...
> >>>
> >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day.  But I skipped all sodas
> for
> >>>> a year and nothing changed.  The only thing that has ever helped was a
> >>>> <1000 cal diet.
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince
> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM
> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is
> indicating
> >>>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and
> there
> >>>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of
> >>>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM
> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome,
> >>>>> sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs.
> >>>>>     Not so good at solving arguments.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
> >>>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM
> >>>>>     *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I completely agree with this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you
> >>>>>     want to happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant
> based
> >>>>>     diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Hammett
> >>>>>     *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
> >>>>>     *To:* af@afmug.com
> >>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate
> >>>>>     quantities.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     -----
> >>>>>     Mike Hammett
> >>>>>     Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+
> IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.
> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>     Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.
> linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://
> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>     The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>     <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> >>>>>     *To: *af@afmug.com
> >>>>>     *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM
> >>>>>     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Recent studies say otherwise.  A myth promulgated by Special K.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From:*Mike Hammett
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *To:*af@afmug.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Not having breakfast is part of your problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     -----
> >>>>>     Mike Hammett
> >>>>>     Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+
> IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.
> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>     Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.
> linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://
> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>     The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>     <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> >>>>>     *To: *af@afmug.com
> >>>>>     *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
> >>>>>     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a
> significant
> >>>>>     effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much.
> >>>>>     And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your
> >>>>>     genetics affect how you metabolize your food.  Eskimos can
> survive
> >>>>>     and thrive without fruit and veggies.  My wife is Swedish and
> >>>>>     wants nothing but meat.  I don’t ever want meat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I wish I could just cut back.  It doesn’t seem like I eat too
> much
> >>>>>     but the numbers say I do.  Most days I don’t have breakfast, I
> >>>>>     have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home
> >>>>>     cooked in the evening.  Not lots of snacks.  Still the pounds are
> >>>>>     up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Perhaps meth is the answer.  Have been watching Breaking Bad
> >>>>>     straight through since the holidays.  Just started the final
> >>>>>     season yesterday.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *From:*Bill Prince
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *To:*af@afmug.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/
> dp/1451624425
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/
> dp/1451624425>).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it
> >>>>>     all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven
> >>>>>     country study". In it he asserted that the so-called
> >>>>>     "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research
> >>>>>     contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a
> >>>>>     study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade
> >>>>>     to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary
> >>>>>     studies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher
> >>>>>     in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins
> >>>>>     diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     bp
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the
> >>>>>         more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in
> >>>>>         processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods has
> >>>>>         had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental
> >>>>>         health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root
> >>>>>         cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge
> >>>>>         contributing factor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



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