Look at the past 50 years from a technology, socio-economic, medical,
and communications standpoint. If you still believe it's going to take
100 years after considering that, I'd be surprised. It's possible
though.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wish 20 years were realistic to meet those goal, more like a century. too
> many "activists". If you can match the taste, texture, and juice of a ribeye
> with all the same cooking qualities, I dont care if its soylent green.
> The 20 year list, especially in the factory jobs is not based on any real
> number other than an extreme faith in technology i would guess. If we ever
> did get to the point you describe, a socialist government would be feasible,
> potentially even sustainable, and it would be met with extreme violence.
>
> In my perfect world we figure out the sticky guts that hold everything
> together so everything can be recycles. Want a steak, look up the recipe for
> the number of electrons, protons, neutrons, whatever ons you need, dump them
> in the black box with some of the goo glue. Take your dump right into a
> recycler that separates everything back into base components. Full nuclear
> power to keep the grinders running since we would be able to separate
> everything back into the base units we can clean up the radiation.
>
> Fallout is a great series, Ive played it from the beginning, f*%k virtual
> reality, in my future we play in real time
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> A lot of the hormone, pesticide, and antibiotics problems will go away
>> with lab grown meat. It is going to allow flavor and fat replication,
>> 99% less land use, 80% less emissions, only 30% of the overall energy
>> requirements (fuel, heat, etc), less pesticide usage (have to feed
>> those animals), no hormone usage, and the complete removal of
>> antibiotic usage that are currently causing antibiotic resistant
>> bacteria. Oh, and it will cost less. One of the current hangups is
>> what preservative to use to prevent fungal growth.. potassium sorbate
>> is a genotoxin, but there are other things they are looking in to.
>>
>> In the next 20 years (maybe less), say goodbye to:
>> Most coal miners (alternative energy increases)
>> Most OTR truckers (will need them for the last few miles, most likely)
>> Most taxi drivers
>> Most cattle ranchers (there will still be some of course)
>> Quite a few farmers (less need for crops)
>> Most factory jobs (except for programmers, robiticists, skilled
>> machinists, engineers, etc)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:54 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > chemtrails man, tis the chemtrails
>> >
>> > lifestyles in general have the most impact, we are fatter and lazier
>> > than
>> > any generation in history, progressively more lazy as getting killed by
>> > bears and sepsis have become less prevalent. processed sugars are, to
>> > me,
>> > the least of our concerns compared to the chemicals and hormones
>> > ingested in
>> > everything, even organic. our soil is generally more contaminated
>> > globally.
>> > GMO isnt even a thing, people think if you eat a genetically modified
>> > food,
>> > it will alter your genes, there are also people who believe the earth is
>> > flat and bacon is bad for you, there is no room for that kind of
>> > nonsense
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Your body processes in this order: alcohol, carbs (which both break
>> >> down
>> >> to sugar), fat resources.
>> >>
>> >> Abstain from alcohol and keep carbs very low and your body will
>> >> naturally
>> >> start going into ketosis. There are testing strips you can test on a
>> >> sample
>> >> of your urine to see if your body is in that "fat burning state" or
>> >> not.
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 22, 2017 7:55 PM, "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> genetics is a bitch...
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/22/17 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I do have a couple of coke zeros each day. But I skipped all sodas
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> a year and nothing changed. The only thing that has ever helped was
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> <1000 cal diet.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM
>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is
>> >>>> indicating
>> >>>> that artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> is an indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of
>> >>>> the intended effect (they contribute to weight gain).
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> bp
>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I need the gut biome of a skinny guy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds
>> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM
>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome,
>> >>>>> sugar addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics,
>> >>>>> configs.
>> >>>>> Not so good at solving arguments.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From:* Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
>> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM
>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I completely agree with this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you
>> >>>>> want to happen.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant
>> >>>>> based
>> >>>>> diet with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike
>> >>>>> Hammett
>> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you
>> >>>>> want.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate
>> >>>>> quantities.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----
>> >>>>> Mike Hammett
>> >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM
>> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Recent studies say otherwise. A myth promulgated by Special K.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From:*Mike Hammett
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Not having breakfast is part of your problem.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----
>> >>>>> Mike Hammett
>> >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
>> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a
>> >>>>> significant
>> >>>>> effect on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too
>> >>>>> much.
>> >>>>> And I don’t think you can generalize too much because your
>> >>>>> genetics affect how you metabolize your food. Eskimos can
>> >>>>> survive
>> >>>>> and thrive without fruit and veggies. My wife is Swedish and
>> >>>>> wants nothing but meat. I don’t ever want meat.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I wish I could just cut back. It doesn’t seem like I eat too
>> >>>>> much
>> >>>>> but the numbers say I do. Most days I don’t have breakfast, I
>> >>>>> have a 300 cal microwave meal and then one smallish plate of
>> >>>>> home
>> >>>>> cooked in the evening. Not lots of snacks. Still the pounds
>> >>>>> are
>> >>>>> up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is up.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Perhaps meth is the answer. Have been watching Breaking Bad
>> >>>>> straight through since the holidays. Just started the final
>> >>>>> season yesterday.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *From:*Bill Prince
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *To:*af@afmug.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You ought to read "/The Big Fat Surprise/" by Nina Teicholz
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425>).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> all when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven
>> >>>>> country study". In it he asserted that the so-called
>> >>>>> "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. Her research
>> >>>>> contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a
>> >>>>> study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade
>> >>>>> to sell his theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary
>> >>>>> studies.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and
>> >>>>> higher
>> >>>>> in fat) diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins
>> >>>>> diet that turns the Mediterranean diet on its head.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> bp
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the
>> >>>>> more I'm rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in
>> >>>>> processed sugar in the 1940s and beyond in American foods
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>> had a hugely negative effect on our current social, mental
>> >>>>> health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the
>> >>>>> root
>> >>>>> cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge
>> >>>>> contributing factor.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> > as
>> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
