I eat a bit.  Fish.  A bit or two of whatever my wife is eating.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

Skip the artificial sweeteners & eat some meat. Get your gut back into normal.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 4:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I do have a couple of coke zeros each day.  But I skipped all sodas for a 
year and nothing changed.  The only thing that has ever helped was a <1000 cal 
diet.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:47 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

  You eat artificial sweeteners? A growing body of evidence is indicating that 
artificial sweeteners do a number on your gut biome. That and there is an 
indication that artificial sweeteners also have the opposite of the intended 
effect (they contribute to weight gain).



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 4:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    I need the gut biome of a skinny guy.

    From: Josh Reynolds 
    Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:30 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

    There are interesting links between process sugars, the gut biome, sugar 
addiction, dopamine, seratonin, motivation, and mental health.

    On Jan 22, 2017 6:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      Google is pretty good for equipment manuals, schematics, configs.
      Not so good at solving arguments.  

      From: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:55 PM
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

      I completely agree with this.

      You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to 
happen.



      For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet 
with the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-)







      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
      Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



      You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want.

      I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc.

      Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate 
quantities.



      -----
      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

      Recent studies say otherwise.  A myth promulgated by Special K.  



      From: Mike Hammett 

      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM

      To: af@afmug.com 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



      Not having breakfast is part of your problem.



      -----
      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

      While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect 
on your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much.  And I don’t think 
you can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize 
your food.  Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies.  My wife 
is Swedish and wants nothing but meat.  I don’t ever want meat.  



      I wish I could just cut back.  It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but 
the numbers say I do.  Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal 
microwave meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening.  Not 
lots of snacks.  Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood 
sugar is up. 



      Perhaps meth is the answer.  Have been watching Breaking Bad straight 
through since the holidays.  Just started the final season yesterday.



      From: Bill Prince 

      Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM

      To: af@afmug.com 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]



      You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz 
(https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). 

      Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all 
when he published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it 
he asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. 
Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a 
study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his 
theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. 

      The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) 
diet to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.

      Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that 
turns the Mediterranean diet on its head.



bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

        The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm 
rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s 
and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current 
social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root 
cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. 



        Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?










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