We are also very interested in this topic.   We will be building out 10 new 
towers in the next few months, and will be making the change to Netonix 
switches (we had previously used a different type of switch).  I the past we 
had put Transtector surge protectors on the tower top and in the cabinet on the 
ground.   From what you are saying in thread, we should not plan on surge 
protectors in the cabinet, but what is the recommended change for the tower 
top, if any?

Thanks,


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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, you run 
the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer.  It will not protect itself 
against shorts.

From: Josh Baird
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge protectors before 
connecting to Netonix.

On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, irrespective of 
manufacturer.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are connected 
to Netonix?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I am going to fix this little problem...

Netonix will fix your port for something like $25

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix


Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge suppressor, and 
it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were swapping from something else that 
had been on the cable, and completely forgot that it was going through that 
surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned.

bp

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On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is just as Matt Hoppes said.  You 
short out their POE and it will blow the Ethernet transformer.

I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could detect and shut 
down in an over current situation.  They do have poly fuses which are slow to 
react and may protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts will indeed 
harm the port feeding the transformer.

So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on passive POE a plain surge 
suppressor should not be used.  I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors 
now.... ;-)  Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to Matt for 
forcing me to learn something new.  It was painful, but I can do painful things 
when I have to.

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

tnx

From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

chris.sisler
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netlinx.net<http://netlinx.net>


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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?



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