Oh boy. What about LMG and Packetflux's resettable breakers? Not fast enough?

------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/25/2017 9:38:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

To be fast enough it will either have to be fuses or it will have to be expensive.

From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

There are other reasons a cable could short: water ingress, accidental cut, faulty device.

Changing your surge suppressor is a good idea, but I think PoE devices ought to include short circuit protection anyway.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/25/2017 9:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, you run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer. It will not protect itself against shorts.

From:Josh Baird
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

What exactly is the reason? We always run through your surge protectors before connecting to Netonix.

On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, irrespective of manufacturer.

From:[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
I am going to fix this little problem...

Netonix will fix your port for something like $25

From:Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were swapping from something else that had been on the cable, and completely forgot that it was going through that surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned.

bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK, had an exchange with Netonix today. It is just as Matt Hoppes said. You short out their POE and it will blow the Ethernet transformer.

I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could detect and shut down in an over current situation. They do have poly fuses which are slow to react and may protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts will indeed harm the port feeding the transformer.

So, Netonix is not active POE. I would say that on passive POE a plain surge suppressor should not be used. I am working some “non plain” surge suppressors now.... ;-) Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to Matt for forcing me to learn something new. It was painful, but I can do painful things when I have to.

From:Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

tnx

From:Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

chris.sisler
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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
    Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?


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