Forrest monitors the port current and can interrupt the current fast enough to 
prevent damage.  Not sure about LMG.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:52 AM
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

Oh boy.  What about LMG and Packetflux's resettable breakers? Not fast enough?


------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/25/2017 9:38:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

  To be fast enough it will either have to be fuses or it will have to be 
expensive.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:35 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

  There are other reasons a cable could short: water ingress, accidental cut, 
faulty device.

  Changing your surge suppressor is a good idea, but I think PoE devices ought 
to include short circuit protection anyway.


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 3/25/2017 9:28:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    If an impulse comes along and the surge suppressor clamps to ground, you 
run the risk of smoking the Netonix POE transformer.  It will not protect 
itself against shorts.

    From: Josh Baird 
    Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:23 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

    What exactly is the reason?  We always run through your surge protectors 
before connecting to Netonix.


    On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


      Bypass ALL surge suppressors that are connected to Netonix, irrespective 
of manufacturer.  

      From: [email protected] 
      Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:41 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

      So we should now bypass all our APC-type surge suppressors that are 
connected to Netonix?

      On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

        I am going to fix this little problem...

        Netonix will fix your port for something like $25

        From: Bill Prince 
        Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:56 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Netonix

        Yeah. We accidentally hooked up an AF24 through a Cambium surge 
suppressor, and it fragged the port on the Netonix. We were swapping from 
something else that had been on the cable, and completely forgot that it was 
going through that surge suppressor. Hard lesson learned.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/24/2017 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          OK,  had an exchange with Netonix today.  It is just as Matt Hoppes 
said.  You short out their POE and it will blow the Ethernet transformer.  

          I really presumed they had circuitry like Forrest that could detect 
and shut down in an over current situation.  They do have poly fuses which are 
slow to react and may protect it from a very brief short, but longer shorts 
will indeed harm the port feeding the transformer.  

          So, Netonix is not active POE.  I would say that on passive POE a 
plain surge suppressor should not be used.  I am working some “non plain” surge 
suppressors now.... ;-)  Stay tuned to this bat channel and a big thanks to 
Matt for forcing me to learn something new.  It was painful, but I can do 
painful things when I have to.  

          From: Chuck McCown 
          Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:01 AM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

          tnx

          From: Josh Luthman 
          Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:47 AM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netonix

          chris.sisler 
          ( A )

          netlinx.net


          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                Anyone know the email for the guy that runs Netonix?



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