Adam, We just did this in a small area using about 9000' of 12 drop fiber. Using two OLT ports and some creative splitting we are able to service 64 lots in that area. Only about 20 of them are currently built out and 15 of those 20 signed up. I'm sure the other 5 will come in within the next year or so. Any new houses will go with us.
-- Best regards, Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html ------ Wednesday, March 29, 2017, 10:42:29 AM, you wrote: AM> I think the idea is you can run a 12 strand aerial cable down a rural AM> road. Since you're using this skinny cable, you can use a $40 closure AM> to put a PON coupler in front of the customer prem. AM> My quick estimate is the difference might be around $6,000 per AM> mile.....that changes with assumptions on how many houses are on that AM> mile and so on....maybe $4k to $6k is fairer. AM> I don't have pricing from Calix. I'm looking at Alphion...the ONT is AM> pretty close to a routerboard. The OLT is a lot more than a mikrotik AM> switch, but cost per customer port (assuming 1:16 PON) is on par with a AM> mid grade switch. It's more than mikrotik, less than Juniper. I can't AM> share numbers due to NDA, but that's the idea. AM> We're looking at doing a whole rural town with 50 miles of road and 300 AM> households. I haven't gotten down to brass tacks yet, but on the AM> surface it seems like the savings is enough to buy a really nice bucket AM> truck. AM> -Adam AM> ------ Original Message ------ AM> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> AM> To: af@afmug.com AM> Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM AM> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had >>16 or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON. >>But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like >>Sterling I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix >>PON. >> >>With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of the >>cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. >>So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you >>place the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on >>new greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we >>are a regulated common carrier with provider of last resort >>obligations. I have to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally >>required to do this. >> >>Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc. >>Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. >> >>-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM >>To: af@afmug.com >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >>Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to >>tackle. >> >>It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber >>count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper >>enclosures. >> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I >>was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? >> >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>To: af@afmug.com >>Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM >>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >>>I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other >>>ideas. >>>Cheap... you get what you pay for. >>> >>>FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around >>>in the years to come. >>>Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go active >>>ethernet. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM >>>To: af@afmug.com >>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>> >>>Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to >>>wait >>>for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. >>> >>>Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that >>>other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but >>>that's >>>less important to me than having it just work. >>> >>>-Adam >>> >>> >>>------ Original Message ------ >>>From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >>>To: af@afmug.com >>>Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM >>>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>> >>>>With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait >>>> >>>>Jon Langeler >>>>Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are >>>>>coded, yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from >>>>>another he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually >>>>>tested across vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or >>>>>doesn't work at all is going to be a matter of chance. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: fiber...@mail.com >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>> >>>>>> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with >>>>>>GPON. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jared >>>>> >>> >>
