72,73,74 On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Until ICE deports them to Syria. *From:* Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers license, etc? That would be awesome. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Go to the county health department. They will record the birth and get > you a birth certificate (in Illinois). > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance > > we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart murmur > because the doctor in all hi knowledge decided to induce a month early, > little runt guy my son was, but his hole in his heart closed up and he > outgrew his runtness. the second one had an OB who was a man hating > believer in bedrest and refused to let my paramedic sister get her stork > pin. > The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues with it are the mess, > the minimal risk of complication, and primarily the paperwork the hospital > handles, I don't know how that works, do I just take the fresh spawn up to > the police station and get a sticker like a bicycle registration or what? > If I mess up the paperwork does my kid become an illegal immigrant? > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them were delivered at >> their house. They hired a midwife for like $500 each time. It definitely is >> a lot cheaper than hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k for >> deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth is a naturally occurring >> event in nature all the time. Some women cant have a natural birth and need >> a C-section and sometimes they don't always know that until the birth is >> trying to happen. Maybe have the first one in the hospital and if it can >> happen without a C-section then have the other ones at home? >> >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> With a Leatherman Tool, all things are possible. >>> >>> *From:* Lewis Bergman >>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>> >>> Chuck...that's just gross. >>> >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at home. >>>> >>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>> Im pretty sure its the mail man again, shes a pretty shady letter >>>> carrier :-) >>>> >>>> Ive grown up in an ems family, two paramedics, two emt B and i was an >>>> emt I, two were also firefighters. >>>> >>>> Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to let my paramedic sister >>>> deliver for CE, note we are (were at the time)literally the most advanced >>>> ems system in the US. And this hospital was the primary training facility. >>>> We figure we will tell the OB doc we have this, we only need her for her >>>> bloodwork and ultrasound, if they wont give my sis the legally required >>>> joy, we will get a dulla or however you spell it and pop the kid in the >>>> living room, mother nature trumps modern science in this regard. >>>> >>>> >>>> There have to be a few of you who popped yer youngins outside a >>>> hospital. Especially the guys who are joe smith fans. 3 times out i think >>>> we are the ones in charge. >>>> On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I hope you know the source of the infection...if not...awkward... >>>>> Conrats! >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I re-read >>>>>> everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hers the initial diagnostic output >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is >>>>>> replicating is directly attached to the command and control node. I know >>>>>> a >>>>>> lot of people would simply CleanSweep, but we just don't feel that is an >>>>>> appropriate step. There may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in >>>>>> all this before its over in December. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As any virus running on a network it has a pattern weather it be >>>>>> dormant on the network at times or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Identify the pattern and where it is trying to phone home to and >>>>>> isolate it from phoning home. Then Clean sweep the machines you have >>>>>> control of. >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst part of any of this is that IOT devices IE(ip cameras,dvrs, >>>>>> tempature monitors and others) are the real threat as they have weak >>>>>> basic >>>>>> code that is open to the network. >>>>>> >>>>>> Isolation will be your best bet. This will prevent DDOS attacks on >>>>>> one front but doesnt stop new viruses from entering. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> an addendum to this, there are two primay variants to the payload. >>>>>> One tends to be much more aggressive, a much more roughly defined code, >>>>>> not >>>>>> all that pretty, but ultimately very versatile and robust. The other is >>>>>> normally more elegant in design, but it tends to be visciously malicious, >>>>>> this is the one to be most concerned of. Its underlying code has started >>>>>> wars and destroyed nations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steve Jones < >>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime >>>>>> around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its >>>>>> product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding whether >>>>>> to continue with temporary firewalls or look toward more robust >>>>>> input/output chain policies for a hardened, more permanent solution. In >>>>>> the >>>>>> mean time, of course, we continued to do the upload/download thing. We >>>>>> had >>>>>> some suspicion that there was something going on, we noted alot of >>>>>> broadcast storms, particularly in the mornings. The network had become >>>>>> particularly sluggish and there seemed to be alot of application bloat, >>>>>> initially i just attributed this to poor code maintenance resulting in a >>>>>> memory leak. >>>>>> >>>>>> We did a basic Netstat this weekend and discovered a traffic anomaly. >>>>>> So we went to a professional and had them run a packet sniffer. We had >>>>>> verification of foreign code, likely for as long as 6-8 weeks. >>>>>> >>>>>> It will be layer 3 in this case but its too early to tell whether >>>>>> this codes payload will be TCP or UDP, we will be monitoring as the code >>>>>> replicates. This is a pretty common virus, as a matter of fact we have >>>>>> all >>>>>> had it at one point, probably so long ago we dont even remember. We >>>>>> anticipate The fully formed packet chain to leave NAT mode and be fully >>>>>> routed out to the WAN in December. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> >> > >
