can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN registered? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 72,73,74 > > On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Until ICE deports them to Syria. > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance > > If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly > under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers license, etc? > That would be awesome. > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Go to the county health department. They will record the birth and get >> you a birth certificate (in Illinois). >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >> >> we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart murmur >> because the doctor in all hi knowledge decided to induce a month early, >> little runt guy my son was, but his hole in his heart closed up and he >> outgrew his runtness. the second one had an OB who was a man hating >> believer in bedrest and refused to let my paramedic sister get her stork >> pin. >> The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues with it are the mess, >> the minimal risk of complication, and primarily the paperwork the hospital >> handles, I don't know how that works, do I just take the fresh spawn up to >> the police station and get a sticker like a bicycle registration or what? >> If I mess up the paperwork does my kid become an illegal immigrant? >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them were delivered at >>> their house. They hired a midwife for like $500 each time. It definitely is >>> a lot cheaper than hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k for >>> deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth is a naturally occurring >>> event in nature all the time. Some women cant have a natural birth and need >>> a C-section and sometimes they don't always know that until the birth is >>> trying to happen. Maybe have the first one in the hospital and if it can >>> happen without a C-section then have the other ones at home? >>> >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> With a Leatherman Tool, all things are possible. >>>> >>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>> >>>> Chuck...that's just gross. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at home. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>> Im pretty sure its the mail man again, shes a pretty shady letter >>>>> carrier :-) >>>>> >>>>> Ive grown up in an ems family, two paramedics, two emt B and i was an >>>>> emt I, two were also firefighters. >>>>> >>>>> Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to let my paramedic sister >>>>> deliver for CE, note we are (were at the time)literally the most advanced >>>>> ems system in the US. And this hospital was the primary training facility. >>>>> We figure we will tell the OB doc we have this, we only need her for her >>>>> bloodwork and ultrasound, if they wont give my sis the legally required >>>>> joy, we will get a dulla or however you spell it and pop the kid in the >>>>> living room, mother nature trumps modern science in this regard. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There have to be a few of you who popped yer youngins outside a >>>>> hospital. Especially the guys who are joe smith fans. 3 times out i think >>>>> we are the ones in charge. >>>>> On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I hope you know the source of the infection...if not...awkward... >>>>>> Conrats! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I >>>>>>> re-read everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hers the initial diagnostic output >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is >>>>>>> replicating is directly attached to the command and control node. I >>>>>>> know a >>>>>>> lot of people would simply CleanSweep, but we just don't feel that is an >>>>>>> appropriate step. There may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in >>>>>>> all this before its over in December. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As any virus running on a network it has a pattern weather it be >>>>>>> dormant on the network at times or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Identify the pattern and where it is trying to phone home to and >>>>>>> isolate it from phoning home. Then Clean sweep the machines you have >>>>>>> control of. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The worst part of any of this is that IOT devices IE(ip >>>>>>> cameras,dvrs, tempature monitors and others) are the real threat as they >>>>>>> have weak basic code that is open to the network. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Isolation will be your best bet. This will prevent DDOS attacks on >>>>>>> one front but doesnt stop new viruses from entering. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> an addendum to this, there are two primay variants to the payload. >>>>>>> One tends to be much more aggressive, a much more roughly defined code, >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> all that pretty, but ultimately very versatile and robust. The other is >>>>>>> normally more elegant in design, but it tends to be visciously >>>>>>> malicious, >>>>>>> this is the one to be most concerned of. Its underlying code has started >>>>>>> wars and destroyed nations >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steve Jones < >>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network. Sometime >>>>>>> around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its >>>>>>> product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding >>>>>>> whether >>>>>>> to continue with temporary firewalls or look toward more robust >>>>>>> input/output chain policies for a hardened, more permanent solution. In >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> mean time, of course, we continued to do the upload/download thing. We >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> some suspicion that there was something going on, we noted alot of >>>>>>> broadcast storms, particularly in the mornings. The network had become >>>>>>> particularly sluggish and there seemed to be alot of application bloat, >>>>>>> initially i just attributed this to poor code maintenance resulting in a >>>>>>> memory leak. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We did a basic Netstat this weekend and discovered a traffic >>>>>>> anomaly. So we went to a professional and had them run a packet >>>>>>> sniffer. We >>>>>>> had verification of foreign code, likely for as long as 6-8 weeks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It will be layer 3 in this case but its too early to tell whether >>>>>>> this codes payload will be TCP or UDP, we will be monitoring as the code >>>>>>> replicates. This is a pretty common virus, as a matter of fact we have >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> had it at one point, probably so long ago we dont even remember. We >>>>>>> anticipate The fully formed packet chain to leave NAT mode and be fully >>>>>>> routed out to the WAN in December. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> >> > > > >
