If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly
under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers license,
etc? That would be awesome.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Go to the county health department. They will record the birth and
get you a birth certificate (in Illinois).
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart
murmur because the doctor in all hi knowledge decided to induce a
month early, little runt guy my son was, but his hole in his heart
closed up and he outgrew his runtness. the second one had an OB who
was a man hating believer in bedrest and refused to let my paramedic
sister get her stork pin.
The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues with it are the
mess, the minimal risk of complication, and primarily the paperwork
the hospital handles, I don't know how that works, do I just take
the fresh spawn up to the police station and get a sticker like a
bicycle registration or what? If I mess up the paperwork does my kid
become an illegal immigrant?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them were
delivered at their house. They hired a midwife for like $500
each time. It definitely is a lot cheaper than hospitals around
here are charging at least 8k-10k for deliveries which I think
is bull since childbirth is a naturally occurring event in
nature all the time. Some women cant have a natural birth and
need a C-section and sometimes they don't always know that until
the birth is trying to happen. Maybe have the first one in the
hospital and if it can happen without a C-section then have the
other ones at home?
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
With a Leatherman Tool, all things are possible.
*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Chuck...that's just gross.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at home.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Im pretty sure its the mail man again, shes a pretty
shady letter carrier :-)
Ive grown up in an ems family, two paramedics, two emt
B and i was an emt I, two were also firefighters.
Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to let my
paramedic sister deliver for CE, note we are (were at
the time)literally the most advanced ems system in the
US. And this hospital was the primary training facility.
We figure we will tell the OB doc we have this, we only
need her for her bloodwork and ultrasound, if they wont
give my sis the legally required joy, we will get a
dulla or however you spell it and pop the kid in the
living room, mother nature trumps modern science in this
regard.
There have to be a few of you who popped yer youngins
outside a hospital. Especially the guys who are joe
smith fans. 3 times out i think we are the ones in charge.
On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman"
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I hope you know the source of the infection...if
not...awkward... Conrats!
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea
<darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:
Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite
register until I re-read everything you’d typed
in this thread - clever! Congratulations!____
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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance____
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Hers the initial diagnostic output____
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On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:____
There is only one infected device. The malicious
code that is replicating is directly attached to
the command and control node. I know a lot of
people would simply CleanSweep, but we just
don't feel that is an appropriate step. There
may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in
all this before its over in December. ____
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David Milholen
<dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:____
As any virus running on a network it has a
pattern weather it be dormant on the network at
times or not. ____
Identify the pattern and where it is trying to
phone home to and isolate it from phoning home.
Then Clean sweep the machines you have control
of.____
The worst part of any of this is that IOT
devices IE(ip cameras,dvrs, tempature monitors
and others) are the real threat as they have
weak basic code that is open to the network.____
Isolation will be your best bet. This will
prevent DDOS attacks on one front but doesnt
stop new viruses from entering.____
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On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:____
an addendum to this, there are two primay
variants to the payload. One tends to be
much more aggressive, a much more roughly
defined code, not all that pretty, but
ultimately very versatile and robust. The
other is normally more elegant in design,
but it tends to be visciously malicious,
this is the one to be most concerned of. Its
underlying code has started wars and
destroyed nations____
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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:____
So this weekend I discovered a Trojan
virus on my network. Sometime around
January we had opted to remove an old
firewall that had met its product life
cycles end. We were still in the process
of deciding whether to continue with
temporary firewalls or look toward more
robust input/output chain policies for a
hardened, more permanent solution. In
the mean time, of course, we continued
to do the upload/download thing. We had
some suspicion that there was something
going on, we noted alot of broadcast
storms, particularly in the mornings.
The network had become particularly
sluggish and there seemed to be alot of
application bloat, initially i just
attributed this to poor code maintenance
resulting in a memory leak.____
We did a basic Netstat this weekend and
discovered a traffic anomaly. So we went
to a professional and had them run a
packet sniffer. We had verification of
foreign code, likely for as long as 6-8
weeks.____
It will be layer 3 in this case but its
too early to tell whether this codes
payload will be TCP or UDP, we will be
monitoring as the code replicates. This
is a pretty common virus, as a matter of
fact we have all had it at one point,
probably so long ago we dont even
remember. We anticipate The fully formed
packet chain to leave NAT mode and be
fully routed out to the WAN in December.____
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