Yep, separate process. At least back in the day when my kids were born.
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN registered?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
72,73,74
On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Until ICE deports them to Syria.
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly
under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers license, etc?
That would be awesome.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Go to the county health department. They will record the birth and get
you a birth certificate (in Illinois).
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart murmur
because the doctor in all hi knowledge decided to induce a month early, little
runt guy my son was, but his hole in his heart closed up and he outgrew his
runtness. the second one had an OB who was a man hating believer in bedrest and
refused to let my paramedic sister get her stork pin.
The old lady wants to do it at home. My only issues with it are the mess,
the minimal risk of complication, and primarily the paperwork the hospital
handles, I don't know how that works, do I just take the fresh spawn up to the
police station and get a sticker like a bicycle registration or what? If I mess
up the paperwork does my kid become an illegal immigrant?
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Kurt Fankhauser
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them were delivered at
their house. They hired a midwife for like $500 each time. It definitely is a
lot cheaper than hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k for
deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth is a naturally occurring
event in nature all the time. Some women cant have a natural birth and need a
C-section and sometimes they don't always know that until the birth is trying
to happen. Maybe have the first one in the hospital and if it can happen
without a C-section then have the other ones at home?
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
With a Leatherman Tool, all things are possible.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Chuck...that's just gross.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:28 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I personally delivered 5 of my 8 kids at home.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Im pretty sure its the mail man again, shes a pretty shady letter
carrier :-)
Ive grown up in an ems family, two paramedics, two emt B and i was
an emt I, two were also firefighters.
Twice now the douchenozzle OB refused to let my paramedic sister
deliver for CE, note we are (were at the time)literally the most advanced ems
system in the US. And this hospital was the primary training facility. We
figure we will tell the OB doc we have this, we only need her for her bloodwork
and ultrasound, if they wont give my sis the legally required joy, we will get
a dulla or however you spell it and pop the kid in the living room, mother
nature trumps modern science in this regard.
There have to be a few of you who popped yer youngins outside a
hospital. Especially the guys who are joe smith fans. 3 times out i think we
are the ones in charge.
On May 9, 2017 3:59 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I hope you know the source of the infection...if not...awkward...
Conrats!
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:41 PM Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com>
wrote:
Even after seeing the stick, it didn’t quite register until I
re-read everything you’d typed in this thread - clever! Congratulations!
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance
Hers the initial diagnostic output
On May 9, 2017 9:52 AM, "Steve Jones"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is only one infected device. The malicious code that is
replicating is directly attached to the command and control node. I know a lot
of people would simply CleanSweep, but we just don't feel that is an
appropriate step. There may be an IOT baby monitor that gets swept up in all
this before its over in December.
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:34 AM, David Milholen
<dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
As any virus running on a network it has a pattern weather it
be dormant on the network at times or not.
Identify the pattern and where it is trying to phone home to
and isolate it from phoning home. Then Clean sweep the machines you have
control of.
The worst part of any of this is that IOT devices IE(ip
cameras,dvrs, tempature monitors and others) are the real threat as they have
weak basic code that is open to the network.
Isolation will be your best bet. This will prevent DDOS attacks
on one front but doesnt stop new viruses from entering.
On 5/8/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
an addendum to this, there are two primay variants to the
payload. One tends to be much more aggressive, a much more roughly defined
code, not all that pretty, but ultimately very versatile and robust. The other
is normally more elegant in design, but it tends to be visciously malicious,
this is the one to be most concerned of. Its underlying code has started wars
and destroyed nations
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
So this weekend I discovered a Trojan virus on my network.
Sometime around January we had opted to remove an old firewall that had met its
product life cycles end. We were still in the process of deciding whether to
continue with temporary firewalls or look toward more robust input/output chain
policies for a hardened, more permanent solution. In the mean time, of course,
we continued to do the upload/download thing. We had some suspicion that there
was something going on, we noted alot of broadcast storms, particularly in the
mornings. The network had become particularly sluggish and there seemed to be
alot of application bloat, initially i just attributed this to poor code
maintenance resulting in a memory leak.
We did a basic Netstat this weekend and discovered a
traffic anomaly. So we went to a professional and had them run a packet
sniffer. We had verification of foreign code, likely for as long as 6-8 weeks.
It will be layer 3 in this case but its too early to tell
whether this codes payload will be TCP or UDP, we will be monitoring as the
code replicates. This is a pretty common virus, as a matter of fact we have all
had it at one point, probably so long ago we dont even remember. We anticipate
The fully formed packet chain to leave NAT mode and be fully routed out to the
WAN in December.
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