and it never will.   But science and politicians don’t seem to go together very 
well.

Mark

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There's a whole county in Wisconsin who's trying to get 4.9 ghz Mikrotik's to 
> service mobile police cars.  They've been working on it for the better part 
> of 7 years and have invested over a million dollars into the project.  It 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> Keefe
> 
> On 3/1/2018 2:05 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> I liked when the lieutenant at the Toledo police department called us up and 
>> threatened to come out and shut down our 2.4 AP’s because we were supposedly 
>> interfering with their ill conceived plan to use WiFi to communicate with 
>> police cars all over town.   
>> 
>> Pretty laughable given that we didn’t have anything in their jurisdiction - 
>> or even any 2.4 in use.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Down south they call it "All hat, and no cattle."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/2018 8:51 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>> Yeah, it would be nice to see a ruling to stop this from happening again 
>>>> in the future... but my guess is that it's really just an empty threat, 
>>>> and he has no intention of actually suing anybody.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> I think this is worth pushing to the nth. I like caselaw, fresh caselaw 
>>>> that stiffens historic caselaw. I would really like to see at the end of 
>>>> the day, the letter recipients divvying up airebeams assets with some 
>>>> sanctions against the attorneys office. We should do a gofundme in the 
>>>> industry for the recipients to afford the litigation, no settlement, no 
>>>> dismissal, make it get to a ruling. 
>>>> 
>>>> where johnny Cochran 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> I wonder how often this kind of thing works to just scare people off 
>>>> though... I assume they'd eventually lose an actual lawsuit, but even if 
>>>> the new guys know that, there's a good chance that they're not going to 
>>>> want to go through the whole mess of getting sued, and just try to keep 
>>>> out of their way.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I think asking nicely to try to avoid interfering with the 
>>>> stuff you have up would be a lot more effective...
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:48 AM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Any local judge would be preempted by FCC. 
>>>>  
>>>> From: Steve Jones <>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 7:20 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
>>>>  
>>>> Yeah, that letter isnt about fcc stuff, its about willfully impeding and 
>>>> incumbants operations. This fcc talk os what theyre probably expecting the 
>>>> people to focus on, but thats not their target. This could be interesting 
>>>> to see play out, hopefully it does end up in court just to get fresh 
>>>> caselaw. The new operators in the area may suffer a bit if injunctions are 
>>>> in play, but if they weather it, theyll win, probably get some time and 
>>>> trouble dough in their pockets too.
>>>>  
>>>> On Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM, "Chris Fabien" <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> They can't stop you, but they can sue you! Can sue anybody for anything in 
>>>> this country right? 
>>>>  
>>>> In reality, I think the real answer is, the FCC rules on unlicensed freqs 
>>>> and how a judge might interpret a case for damages due to lost business 
>>>> due to provable radio interference, may be two totally different 
>>>> situations.
>>>>  
>>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected] 
>>>> <>> wrote:
>>>> Send them the Part 15 rules...they can't stop you. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>  
>>>> On Feb 28, 2018 9:26 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>> We cover one of the areas with Airebeam and we can’t install over their 
>>>> old customers fast enough.  Ken is backed up at least 3 times what we are 
>>>> backed up.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Rory
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <>] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:12 PM
>>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone seen this letter yet
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> all you need to know about this outfit
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> " Today is a Great Day!  I cancelled my Airebeam account and switched to 
>>>> another company. This company has the worst customer service. They also 
>>>> have horrible internet service. They are very unresponsive when there is 
>>>> an issue. (and if they did respond, they always blamed the router.) In my 
>>>> opinion, Greg does not take the responsibility of owning a business and 
>>>> providing quality seriously.
>>>> Follow up note:
>>>> When Steven (installer) contacted me to pick up equipment, he stated 
>>>> equipment that wasn't even theirs. He then proceeded to yell at me. I 
>>>> explained to him that he was never to contact me again. The owner, instead 
>>>> of finding a solution, threatened to file theft charges. I am more than 
>>>> happy to return their equipment, but I don't have to put up with their 
>>>> abusive employees."
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> https://www.yelp.com/biz/airebeam-arizona-city 
>>>> <https://www.yelp.com/biz/airebeam-arizona-city>
>>>>  
>>>> not that BBB is legit, but there is this 
>>>> https://www.bbb.org/phoenix/business-reviews/internet-providers/airebeam-broadband-in-arizona-city-az-1000033070/reviews-and-complaints
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.bbb.org/phoenix/business-reviews/internet-providers/airebeam-broadband-in-arizona-city-az-1000033070/reviews-and-complaints>
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected] 
>>>> <>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> man, that sucks. He probably paid this lawyer too.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> wouldnt it be crazy though if this was a loophole nobody thought of cause 
>>>> its too dumb to work, but we didnt take into account the level of dumb in 
>>>> the judiciary
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected] <>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Two guys in Arizona got them but my guess is these people are just 
>>>> fishing.  I’ve got my attorneys looking it over and I’m going to make an 
>>>> inquiry to the Attorney General’s office tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
>>>> 
>>>> 4226 S. 37 <https://maps.google.com/?q=4226+S.+37&entry=gmail&source=g>th 
>>>> Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
>>>> 
>>>> 602-426-0542 <tel:%28602%29%20426-0542>
>>>> [email protected] <>
>>>> www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> “Yesterdays Home Runs don’t win todays games!”
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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