John. We're all in opinion territory. Let me ask, what do you mean by "our freedoms"? Humans don't know how to be free. We become insecure and fearful without our entrained scripts and prescribed socialized routines to soothe us. Creatures of habit, not freedom. Freedom's an artifiact of a necessary delusion. It could be made more real, but not unless we understood its essence. Why else would death be viewed as the only gateway to "freedom", which it isn't. The fatalistic delusion persists.
For as long as we view ourselves as standing outside looking in, we'll feel like outsiders. Insiders revel in being inside, looking out. A carefully constructed dichotomy of "us" and "them". Why choose to be enslaved by that, or is it impulse, and not a free choice? Do we even have free choice? This pathology we carry around is as a result of engaging our consciousness to these energies, the result of buying into the narrative of the Division Bell. Is there a middle road where both perspectives could be maintained, while benefiting from both? Love this topic, obviously. How can one claim to be free if one's freedom is relative to someone else's "imprisonment"? I'm free because that poor sucker's locked up, or stuck in a deadzone of life? Most of us sit in our Plato Cave of solitary confinement, conversing with our own mirrors and shadows - freely disconnected from society. Freedom is a sense of unafraidness. A sense of willful connectedness. Is it not? Switching channels. The collective term for TOEs is GUTs (Grand Unification Theories). A TOE is an impossibility, a dream. If it ever existed, all science would cease. There would be nothing left to discover. The term "proto" is not only modest, but also reflects wisdom. I know, because I also had to cross over that bridge myself. Hindsight is a great teacher. If you want to anchor any theory to reality, just ask: How does it relate to the wavefunction? Here, I challenged the boldness of E8 theory. No one responded to the challenge. Either because my challenge is being ignored, or was stupid, or valid. Recently, I found a single, passing reference for E8 as SO(8). Mmmm, what does that really mean, is it all gauges x SO(8), or what? ? Does it fully explain the 8th dimension at the expense of all other dimensions? Does it explain all dimensionality? What good does it really do if it has no apparent degrees of freedom? INSIDERS<=>OUTSIDERS On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 4:33 AM John Rose via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tuesday, December 09, 2025, at 2:01 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > It's not hopeless. We can get 800 TW by covering 4% of the Earth with > solar panels at 25% efficiency. We can optimize the hardware for sparse, > low precision matrix operations. We can use nanotechnology to compute by > moving atoms instead of electrons, which is how your brain uses 20 watts > instead of 1 MW. > > > I keep hearing all this stuff about free energy, one of the things that > Tesla was working on. Wouldn't it be surprising if free energy production > existed but the technology had been kept from us? What would be the excuse > for doing that I wonder. Nah probably just a conspiracy theory... worth > checking out though in case it's true. > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M3fd2fa7e38574f306b5ec9c0> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7ff992c51cca9e36-M26331c41843ba8502a347abc Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
