Ben said "-- the possibility of dramatic, rapid, shocking success in
robotics is LOWER
than in cognition"

That's why I tell people the value of manual labor will not be impacted as
soon by the AGI revolution as the value of mind labor.

Ed Porter



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From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:29 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: [agi] What best evidence for fast AI?






I'm impressed with the certainty of some of the views expressed here,
nothing like I get talking to people actually building robots.

- Jef




Robotics involves a lot of difficulties regarding sensor and actuator
mechanics and data-processing. Whether these need to be solved to
create AGI is a matter of much contention.  Some, like Rodney Brooks,
think so.  Others, like me, doubt it -- though I think embodiment does
have
a lot to offer an AGI system, hence my current focus on virtual
embodiment...

Still, in spite of the hurdles, the solvability of the problems facing
humanoid
robotics w/in the next few decades seems pretty clear to me --- if
sufficient
resources are devoted to the problem (and it's not clear they will be).

I think that, compared to fundamental progress in AGI cognition,

-- our certitude in dramatic robotics progress can be greater, under
assumptions
of adequate funding

-- the possibility of dramatic, rapid, shocking success in robotics is
LOWER
than in cognition

-- Ben G

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