Ben said "-- the possibility of dramatic, rapid, shocking success in robotics is LOWER than in cognition"
That's why I tell people the value of manual labor will not be impacted as soon by the AGI revolution as the value of mind labor. Ed Porter -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:29 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] What best evidence for fast AI? I'm impressed with the certainty of some of the views expressed here, nothing like I get talking to people actually building robots. - Jef Robotics involves a lot of difficulties regarding sensor and actuator mechanics and data-processing. Whether these need to be solved to create AGI is a matter of much contention. Some, like Rodney Brooks, think so. Others, like me, doubt it -- though I think embodiment does have a lot to offer an AGI system, hence my current focus on virtual embodiment... Still, in spite of the hurdles, the solvability of the problems facing humanoid robotics w/in the next few decades seems pretty clear to me --- if sufficient resources are devoted to the problem (and it's not clear they will be). I think that, compared to fundamental progress in AGI cognition, -- our certitude in dramatic robotics progress can be greater, under assumptions of adequate funding -- the possibility of dramatic, rapid, shocking success in robotics is LOWER than in cognition -- Ben G _____ This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/? <http://v2.listbox.com/member/?& > & ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=63975170-cc0347