John, So if consciousness is important for compression, then I suggest you write two compression programs, one conscious and one not, and see which one compresses better.
Otherwise, this is nonsense. -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 12/30/08, John G. Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: From: John G. Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> Subject: RE: [agi] Universal intelligence test benchmark To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:46 AM If the agents were p-zombies or just not conscious they would have different motivations. Consciousness has properties of communication protocol and effects inter-agent communication. The idea being it enhances agents' existence and survival. I assume it facilitates collective intelligence, generally. For a multi-agent system with a goal of compression or prediction the agent consciousness would have to be catered. So introducing - Consciousness of X is: the idea or feeling that X is correlated with "Consciousness of X" to the agents would give them more "glue" if they expended that consciousness on one another. The communications dynamics of the system would change.... verses a similar non-conscious multi-agent system. John From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:b...@goertzel.org] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:30 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Universal intelligence test benchmark Consciousness of X is: the idea or feeling that X is correlated with "Consciousness of X" ;-) ben g On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Matt Mahoney <matmaho...@yahoo.com> wrote: --- On Mon, 12/29/08, John G. Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > > What does consciousness have to do with the rest of your argument? > > > > Multi-agent systems should need individual consciousness to > achieve advanced > levels of collective intelligence. So if you are > programming a multi-agent > system, potentially a compressor, having consciousness in > the agents could > have an intelligence amplifying effect instead of having > non-conscious > agents. Or some sort of primitive consciousness component > since higher level > consciousness has not really been programmed yet. > > Agree? No. What do you mean by "consciousness"? Some people use "consciousness" and intelligence" interchangeably. If that is the case, then you are just using a circular argument. If not, then what is the difference? -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
