While I haven't been paying attention to your scams of late due to real
life drama and bad timing (family issues; I'm flying to go be with them for
a month starting Thursday), I feel that your welcome with such tactics has
worn thin.

天火狐

On 10 July 2017 at 12:17, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, they are definitely contradictory at times. I've mentioned before
> that I don't have any objective measure to decide what interpretation is
> best, so I just use one which does the most interesting thing for me in
> hopes that a enough audience agrees with it or a CFJ about it is judged in
> my favor, because I don't know which among the myriad of perfectly
> reasonable interpretations I will be judged by.
>
> If you, nichdel and PSS, had opposite (and contradictory) interpretations
> on something, I would believe that both are equally valid. Now, I have many
> interpretations just like those in mind at any given time (and many
> contradictory), and I have no tiebreaker. And even then, my own opinion
> about what interpretation is best matters very little when it comes to
> resolving my own actions, because in the end, its the audience who is my
> judge - it's all of you who have the final word.
>
> And you all don't unanimously agree with each other. So of course that the
> interpretations I use won't agree with each other either.
>
> So I just shrug and use the ones that are more convenient for me in hopes
> that the audience would agree to it (whether I personally agree to it or
> not matters little, just my judgement of whether others might be convinced
> of it or not. Which in this case was woefully inaccurate, most likely due
> to that I just winged it).
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They also seem to contradict each other at times.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 09:55 Nicholas Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The argument 'I wouldn't do all that work in order to fake' is
>>> fallacious. Of course you would if you thought you could get away with it.
>>>
>>> I think you constantly violate no faking by purposely misconstruing the
>>> rules to have meanings favorable to you, even when those meanings are
>>> nonesense. Then you plead ignorance when someone calls it out, or you stop
>>> responding and move onto the next bad faith attempt.
>>>
>>> I'd accept one or two peculiar interpretations from a single player as
>>> good faith, but you've purported many unlikely beliefs, and somehow they
>>> all favor your goals.
>>>
>>> Cut the bullshit out.
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2017 03:43, "Cuddle Beam" <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I totally understand why it could be be appropriate to card me for
>>>> trying the stick-up, but @grok, I don't understand the card part of if I
>>>> *fail* to deputize for Surveyor just yet. If the argument is that using a
>>>> loophole to try to get the office is "bad", shouldn't I be carded
>>>> *regardless* of if I fail or succeed? How does succeeding to get the office
>>>> somehow spare me of getting a card? (Either way, I'll accept the carding,
>>>> but I just want to understand that part better)
>>>>
>>>> All that aside, well, yeah. I accept all charges (except for the no
>>>> faking part, I wouldn't have written that wall of text if I didn't believe
>>>> it had at least a slither of chance of working. Or, on the flip side, I
>>>> wouldn't have written a huge wall of text with the aim to get a card when
>>>> just writing something way shorter is way easier. I totally get that it
>>>> feels heinous to try to pull off a stick-up like this though, but then
>>>> again, if it worked, it could all just pass quickly if people simply vote
>>>> FOR lol. But yeah, pretty evil.)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:09 AM, grok (caleb vines) <
>>>> grokag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Aris Merchant
>>>>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > I point my finger at CuddleBeam for violation of Rule 2471. I argue
>>>>> > that air actions were so implausible that e could not reasonably have
>>>>> > believed them, and that at the very least e is absurdly negligent.
>>>>> > Given that this is having a huge impact on the players and the game
>>>>> > (look at the deregistrations), I recommend a sentence of a Red Card.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -Aris
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> I would support, with a fair implementation.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I point my finger at CB for failure to treat Agora Right Good
>>>>> Forever.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I previously deregistered because I thought my explosive response
>>>>> to CB
>>>>> >> was my own issue, that e needed time to adjust, and I needed time to
>>>>> >> cool off. But I'm now convinced that's not the case. Everything CB
>>>>> does
>>>>> >> disrespects the time, effort, and feelings of every other player.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I challenge people who are on the fence about this to point to a
>>>>> single
>>>>> >> time that CB has considered other players, or done necessary work,
>>>>> or
>>>>> >> done anything at all to make the game better or more enjoyable to
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> >> but emself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With these two finger points in play now, I'd like to make a quick
>>>>> reminder that I recommended Cuddlebeam be carded if eir attempt to
>>>>> deputize as Surveyor fails[1].
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]: https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/m
>>>>> sg28819.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -grok
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>

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