Tracking is already done by Google Account. You can just emphasize the
Android Market users to tie up their Card account to their Google account,
without actually charging them to keep it more authentic.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> AI,
>
> I'm going under the assumption here that if they use a payment method
> that does not hide their identity we will at least be able to keep
> track of the bad guys. Spammers never give out their identity if they
> can help it because they will get black listed very quickly.
>
> On Oct 25, 3:30 am, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Personally I don't think $25 is going to protect anyone, as has been
> > said already $25 isn't a lot of money, and all the fee will do is
> > attract malicious software which is aimed to make money quickly to cover
> > the cost.
> >
> > Spammers will pay upto $1 per email, and premium rate call routing
> > services can cost the earth per minute. I think that when we see malware
> > (and it will be a when not an if), it'll hit hard and hit fast to ensure
> > the $25 is recouped as quickly as possible.
> >
> > Al.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Muthu Ramadoss wrote:
> > > Here's my take:
> >
> > > 1. Google, take the 25$.. keep the market clean.
> > > 2. Run a monthly contest, and award say like 100$ for the best app of
> > > the month.
> >
> > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > >     Guys,
> >
> > >     First of all, I'm back! Second of all, what is up with the whining?
> > >     $25 dollars is not bad at all. It will help keep everybody honest.
> > >     Specially if anybody is trying to to post malicious apps. As
> mentioned
> > >     by other people, you do not have to post your app in the android
> > >     market. Go ahead and host it in your own website.
> >
> > >     On Oct 24, 5:22 pm, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >     > The problem is less the money but more the situation. You had a
> > >     lot of
> > >     > developers come in last November when Android was nothing but a
> > >     buggy SDK.
> > >     > These developers worked their tails off (in part because of the
> > >     money Google
> > >     > was dangling in their faces), some quit there jobs, wreaked
> > >     their lives for
> > >     > it. Then when the ADC was over, Google had a bunch of apps and a
> > >     largely
> > >     > tested SDK.  Google could now go to the carriers and say, "We
> > >     have something
> > >     > to offer."
> >
> > >     > Then Google clammed up, withheld the SDK, didn't tell the
> > >     community about it
> > >     > and refused to respond to answers when it became known. Strike 1.
> >
> > >     > Then the developers waited for the open system to deliver their
> > >     apps and be
> > >     > able to compete against those on the inside track. Google
> > >     witheld that
> > >     > option as well: Strike 2
> >
> > >     > Now we find out about the 30% witholding and 25 dollar fees.
> > >     It's not that
> > >     > these are very different than industry norms, but to some
> > >     developers, who
> > >     > were sacrificing so much, to find out they were a tool for
> > >     validating
> > >     > Android for Google, only to have to start shoving money out of
> > >     their pocket,
> > >     > adds salt to the wound. Maybe Google should donate that 25 fee
> > >     to a good
> > >     > cause, if its just to discourage bad apps from the app market. I
> > >     also think
> > >     > Google should wave the fee for all ADC entrants, after all
> > >     haven't they
> > >     > proven their commitment to the platform?
> >
> > >     > Shane
> >
> > >     > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ed Burnette
> > >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> > >     > > Not to worry, you can always host a .apk file on your web site
> > >     (taking
> > >     > > care to give it the right MIME type) and educate people to
> > >     turn on the
> > >     > > "Allow install of non-Market applications" option. Or use one
> > >     of the
> > >     > > other app stores. Or stick a Paypal donate button on your site
> and
> > >     > > collect $25 from fans then use that to pay Google. Lots of
> > >     options.
> >
> > >     > > On Oct 22, 3:12 pm, "Ewan Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >     > > > Well, I'm going to have to seriously rethink releasing a
> > >     free application
> > >     > > if
> > >     > > > I have to pay for the privilege. Yes, I know I can use the
> > >     alternate
> > >     > > markets
> > >     > > > if I don't want to pay, but that cuts out a lot of potential
> > >     users.
> >
> > >     > > > Would have been nice to have been told about this before I:
> > >     > > > a) coded the app
> > >     > > > b) put it in the wild on a couple of the alternate
> marketplaces
> >
> > >     > > > because now I either have to withdraw and resubmit, or
> > >     decide it's not
> > >     > > > something worth the trouble.
> >
> > >     > > > Anyone who has pulled down a copy of "Mars Lander" care to
> > >     tell me
> > >     > > > (privately at my email address, not through the list) if you
> > >     think it's
> > >     > > > worth a couple of bucks or not?
> >
> > >     > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Mark Murphy
> > >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >     > > >wrote:
> >
> > >     > > > > Al Sutton wrote:
> >
> > >     >
> http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-ava.
> > >     > > ..
> >
> > >     > > > > Even more than the $25 is the 30% cut for the carriers.
> > >     That definitely
> > >     > > > > leaves plenty of room for competing markets, particularly
> > >     if developers
> > >     > > > > pass some of the savings on to the consumers.
> >
> > >     > > > > --
> > >     > > > > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
> > >     > > > >http://commonsware.com
> > >     > > > > _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version
> > >     1.3 Published!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >     > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > --
> > > take care,
> > > Muthu Ramadoss.
> >
> > >http://mobeegal.in- mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914
> >
> > --
> > Al Sutton
> >
> > W:www.alsutton.com
> > B: alsutton.wordpress.com
> > T: twitter.com/alsutton- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>


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take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914

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