$25 for a Gmail account... now that could help stop some spam :).

Al.

Muthu Ramadoss wrote:
> Agree, I don't see how 25$ will deter a hardcore spammer taking 
> advantage of the system. Haven't seen Google asking for 25$ to fight 
> spammers in any of the other services it offers, except for Android 
> Market. Weird.
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>
>     Personally I don't think $25 is going to protect anyone, as has been
>     said already $25 isn't a lot of money, and all the fee will do is
>     attract malicious software which is aimed to make money quickly to
>     cover
>     the cost.
>
>     Spammers will pay upto $1 per email, and premium rate call routing
>     services can cost the earth per minute. I think that when we see
>     malware
>     (and it will be a when not an if), it'll hit hard and hit fast to
>     ensure
>     the $25 is recouped as quickly as possible.
>
>     Al.
>
>     Muthu Ramadoss wrote:
>     > Here's my take:
>     >
>     > 1. Google, take the 25$.. keep the market clean.
>     > 2. Run a monthly contest, and award say like 100$ for the best
>     app of
>     > the month.
>     >
>     > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Incognito
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     Guys,
>     >
>     >     First of all, I'm back! Second of all, what is up with the
>     whining?
>     >     $25 dollars is not bad at all. It will help keep everybody
>     honest.
>     >     Specially if anybody is trying to to post malicious apps. As
>     mentioned
>     >     by other people, you do not have to post your app in the android
>     >     market. Go ahead and host it in your own website.
>     >
>     >     On Oct 24, 5:22 pm, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>     >     > The problem is less the money but more the situation. You
>     had a
>     >     lot of
>     >     > developers come in last November when Android was nothing
>     but a
>     >     buggy SDK.
>     >     > These developers worked their tails off (in part because
>     of the
>     >     money Google
>     >     > was dangling in their faces), some quit there jobs, wreaked
>     >     their lives for
>     >     > it. Then when the ADC was over, Google had a bunch of apps
>     and a
>     >     largely
>     >     > tested SDK.  Google could now go to the carriers and say, "We
>     >     have something
>     >     > to offer."
>     >     >
>     >     > Then Google clammed up, withheld the SDK, didn't tell the
>     >     community about it
>     >     > and refused to respond to answers when it became known.
>     Strike 1.
>     >     >
>     >     > Then the developers waited for the open system to deliver
>     their
>     >     apps and be
>     >     > able to compete against those on the inside track. Google
>     >     witheld that
>     >     > option as well: Strike 2
>     >     >
>     >     > Now we find out about the 30% witholding and 25 dollar fees.
>     >     It's not that
>     >     > these are very different than industry norms, but to some
>     >     developers, who
>     >     > were sacrificing so much, to find out they were a tool for
>     >     validating
>     >     > Android for Google, only to have to start shoving money out of
>     >     their pocket,
>     >     > adds salt to the wound. Maybe Google should donate that 25 fee
>     >     to a good
>     >     > cause, if its just to discourage bad apps from the app
>     market. I
>     >     also think
>     >     > Google should wave the fee for all ADC entrants, after all
>     >     haven't they
>     >     > proven their commitment to the platform?
>     >     >
>     >     > Shane
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ed Burnette
>     >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > > Not to worry, you can always host a .apk file on your
>     web site
>     >     (taking
>     >     > > care to give it the right MIME type) and educate people to
>     >     turn on the
>     >     > > "Allow install of non-Market applications" option. Or
>     use one
>     >     of the
>     >     > > other app stores. Or stick a Paypal donate button on
>     your site and
>     >     > > collect $25 from fans then use that to pay Google. Lots of
>     >     options.
>     >     >
>     >     > > On Oct 22, 3:12 pm, "Ewan Grantham"
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>     >     > > > Well, I'm going to have to seriously rethink releasing a
>     >     free application
>     >     > > if
>     >     > > > I have to pay for the privilege. Yes, I know I can use the
>     >     alternate
>     >     > > markets
>     >     > > > if I don't want to pay, but that cuts out a lot of
>     potential
>     >     users.
>     >     >
>     >     > > > Would have been nice to have been told about this
>     before I:
>     >     > > > a) coded the app
>     >     > > > b) put it in the wild on a couple of the alternate
>     marketplaces
>     >     >
>     >     > > > because now I either have to withdraw and resubmit, or
>     >     decide it's not
>     >     > > > something worth the trouble.
>     >     >
>     >     > > > Anyone who has pulled down a copy of "Mars Lander" care to
>     >     tell me
>     >     > > > (privately at my email address, not through the list)
>     if you
>     >     think it's
>     >     > > > worth a couple of bucks or not?
>     >     >
>     >     > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Mark Murphy
>     >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     >     > > >wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > > > > Al Sutton wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > > >
>     >    
>     >http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-ava.
>     >     > > ..
>     >     >
>     >     > > > > Even more than the $25 is the 30% cut for the carriers.
>     >     That definitely
>     >     > > > > leaves plenty of room for competing markets,
>     particularly
>     >     if developers
>     >     > > > > pass some of the savings on to the consumers.
>     >     >
>     >     > > > > --
>     >     > > > > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
>     >     > > > >http://commonsware.com
>     >     > > > > _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version
>     >     1.3 Published!- Hide quoted text -
>     >     >
>     >     > - Show quoted text -
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > take care,
>     > Muthu Ramadoss.
>     >
>     > http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914
>     >
>     > >
>
>
>     --
>     Al Sutton
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> take care,
> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914
>
> >


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