Haha.. Yeah, why not fight GMail spam with 25$?? On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > $25 for a Gmail account... now that could help stop some spam :). > > Al. > > Muthu Ramadoss wrote: > > Agree, I don't see how 25$ will deter a hardcore spammer taking > > advantage of the system. Haven't seen Google asking for 25$ to fight > > spammers in any of the other services it offers, except for Android > > Market. Weird. > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > Personally I don't think $25 is going to protect anyone, as has been > > said already $25 isn't a lot of money, and all the fee will do is > > attract malicious software which is aimed to make money quickly to > > cover > > the cost. > > > > Spammers will pay upto $1 per email, and premium rate call routing > > services can cost the earth per minute. I think that when we see > > malware > > (and it will be a when not an if), it'll hit hard and hit fast to > > ensure > > the $25 is recouped as quickly as possible. > > > > Al. > > > > Muthu Ramadoss wrote: > > > Here's my take: > > > > > > 1. Google, take the 25$.. keep the market clean. > > > 2. Run a monthly contest, and award say like 100$ for the best > > app of > > > the month. > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Incognito > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > First of all, I'm back! Second of all, what is up with the > > whining? > > > $25 dollars is not bad at all. It will help keep everybody > > honest. > > > Specially if anybody is trying to to post malicious apps. As > > mentioned > > > by other people, you do not have to post your app in the > android > > > market. Go ahead and host it in your own website. > > > > > > On Oct 24, 5:22 pm, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > The problem is less the money but more the situation. You > > had a > > > lot of > > > > developers come in last November when Android was nothing > > but a > > > buggy SDK. > > > > These developers worked their tails off (in part because > > of the > > > money Google > > > > was dangling in their faces), some quit there jobs, wreaked > > > their lives for > > > > it. Then when the ADC was over, Google had a bunch of apps > > and a > > > largely > > > > tested SDK. Google could now go to the carriers and say, "We > > > have something > > > > to offer." > > > > > > > > Then Google clammed up, withheld the SDK, didn't tell the > > > community about it > > > > and refused to respond to answers when it became known. > > Strike 1. > > > > > > > > Then the developers waited for the open system to deliver > > their > > > apps and be > > > > able to compete against those on the inside track. Google > > > witheld that > > > > option as well: Strike 2 > > > > > > > > Now we find out about the 30% witholding and 25 dollar fees. > > > It's not that > > > > these are very different than industry norms, but to some > > > developers, who > > > > were sacrificing so much, to find out they were a tool for > > > validating > > > > Android for Google, only to have to start shoving money out > of > > > their pocket, > > > > adds salt to the wound. Maybe Google should donate that 25 > fee > > > to a good > > > > cause, if its just to discourage bad apps from the app > > market. I > > > also think > > > > Google should wave the fee for all ADC entrants, after all > > > haven't they > > > > proven their commitment to the platform? > > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Ed Burnette > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not to worry, you can always host a .apk file on your > > web site > > > (taking > > > > > care to give it the right MIME type) and educate people to > > > turn on the > > > > > "Allow install of non-Market applications" option. Or > > use one > > > of the > > > > > other app stores. Or stick a Paypal donate button on > > your site and > > > > > collect $25 from fans then use that to pay Google. Lots of > > > options. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 3:12 pm, "Ewan Grantham" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > > > Well, I'm going to have to seriously rethink releasing a > > > free application > > > > > if > > > > > > I have to pay for the privilege. Yes, I know I can use > the > > > alternate > > > > > markets > > > > > > if I don't want to pay, but that cuts out a lot of > > potential > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Would have been nice to have been told about this > > before I: > > > > > > a) coded the app > > > > > > b) put it in the wild on a couple of the alternate > > marketplaces > > > > > > > > > > because now I either have to withdraw and resubmit, or > > > decide it's not > > > > > > something worth the trouble. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone who has pulled down a copy of "Mars Lander" care > to > > > tell me > > > > > > (privately at my email address, not through the list) > > if you > > > think it's > > > > > > worth a couple of bucks or not? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Mark Murphy > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Al Sutton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-ava. > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > Even more than the $25 is the 30% cut for the carriers. > > > That definitely > > > > > > > leaves plenty of room for competing markets, > > particularly > > > if developers > > > > > > > pass some of the savings on to the consumers. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) > > > > > > >http://commonsware.com > > > > > > > _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version > > > 1.3 Published!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > take care, > > > Muthu Ramadoss. > > > > > > http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Al Sutton > > > > W: www.alsutton.com <http://www.alsutton.com> > > B: alsutton.wordpress.com <http://alsutton.wordpress.com> > > T: twitter.com/alsutton <http://twitter.com/alsutton> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > take care, > > Muthu Ramadoss. > > > > http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 > > > > > > > > -- > Al Sutton > > W: www.alsutton.com > B: alsutton.wordpress.com > T: twitter.com/alsutton > > > > > -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
