Hi

I think it would be good if you could maintan da-sv as part of your
combined effort, on par with the other language pairs.

best regards
keld

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 04:17:38PM +0200, Per Tunedal wrote:
> Hi,
> how do I proceed to work efficiently with improving da-se? Where to
> start? What steps have I to go through?
> Yours,
> Per Tunedal
> 
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012, at 10:40, Jacob Nordfalk wrote:
> 
> 2012/8/14 Per Tunedal <[1]per.tune...@operamail.com>
> 
> > Likewise, people who work on MT are recommended to begin with
> > translating into their mother tongue :) (that's also the reason for
> the
> > state of da???sv, no Swedes have worked on it).
> 
> 
>   I see. There is no end to the work to be done by a Swede!
> 
> 
> True!
> 
> 
>   What exactly
>   has to be done before releasing the pair da - sv?
> 
> 
> I have already told you, but in a way that not apparent. Sorry for
> that.
> 
> 
> Here I'll try to explain what happens and where the problems are.
> 
> Dansk til svensk virker ikke
> 
> -> (Analysis of all possible interpretations of the words using Danish
> monidict. Works OK.)
> 
> ^Dansk/Dansk<adj><pst><un><sg><ind>/Dansk<n><nt><sg><ind><nom>$
> ^til/til<adv>/til<pr>/til<cnjadv>$
> ^svensk/svensk<adj><pst><un><sg><ind>/svensk<n><nt><sg><ind><nom>$
> ^virker/virke<vblex><pres><actv>$ ^ikke/ikke<adv>$
> 
> -> (tagging, ie choosing which one of the possible interpretations of a
> word is the correct one. Probably broken as the tagger hasnt been
> trained on a Danish corpus)
> 
> ^Dansk<n><nt><sg><ind><nom>$ ^til<pr>$ ^svensk<n><nt><sg><ind><nom>$
> ^virke<vblex><pres><actv>$ ^ikke<adv>$
> 
> -> transfer and use of bilingual da-sv dictionary. Broken as 1) 'ikke'
> maps to both icke and inte  and 2) and 'virke' is not found in the
> bilingual dictionary.
> 
> ^Danska<n><ut><sg><ind><nom>$ ^till<pr>$ ^svenska<n><ut><sg><ind><nom>$
> ^@virke<vblex><pres><actv>$ ^icke<adv>/inte<adv>$
> 
> -> generation of Swedish text. Probably OK.
> 
> Danska till svenska \@virke #icke
> 
> 
> You should really take a look with Apertium-viewer.
> As da - sv unfortunately has been disabled as its not production-ready,
> you have to download the pair from SVN and compile it first.
> Mikel, I think Per is a perfect example of why unreleased pairs should
> also be available for download: Using the easy tools is the best way
> for a potential contributor to be able to judge the existing work.
> 
> 
> >
> > What matters is whether it's different in nb and sv ???
> 
> 
>   Well, as I've said before; I plan to reuse as much as possible from
>   the
>   pair sv - da.
> 
> 
> It would be perfect if you could work a little on improving da->sv to
> get easy experience, and then shift to your main goal.
> 
> I and Francis were the mentors for sv->da and we'd be happy to answer
> all questions. If you pass Copenhagen then we could also meet in person
> to get you up and running.
> 
> Jacob
> 
> 
> 
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