Hi again, true that one to many translation is a minor problem, but it's interesting! I happened to run into because I would have to fix the problems with the example phrase:
"Dansk til svensk virker ikke" My goal is simply to prepare for a future one to many translation. Or at least not to put any obstacles in it's way. I've read the Workshop Manual from april 2011 and thought I had found the correct way. I've tried to follow the instructions on page 33 "... add some entries for lexical forms with more than one translation, following the Apertium convention ...", continued with an example with the slr-tag. My conclusion was that using the slr-tag: 1) is the default in Apertium 2) it doesn't do any harm 3) it might be useful in the future I don't quite understand how to open for the use of Francis module (not excluding other possibilities). Will the "LR"-tag break it? What should I do instead? <e r="LR"> <p><l>icke<s n="adv"/></l> <r>ikke<s n="adv"/></r></p></e> <e> <p><l>inte<s n="adv"/></l> <r>ikke<s n="adv"/></r></p></e> I have to do something with "inte" and "icke"! Both words have to be in the dictionaries. Se my question below: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012, at 11:14, Francis Tyers wrote: > El dv 07 de 09 de 2012 a les 09:23 +0200, en/na Jacob Nordfalk va > escriure: > > > > > > 2012/9/7 Per Tunedal <per.tune...@operamail.com> > > ... snip ... > > > All in all: > > Per: Stick to one-to-one and many-to-one translations for now. > > And make a list of the 10 most important one-to-many translations > > (=lexical selection). When we have that list we will see what is the > > best approach do doing lexical selection in da-sv and do something > > about it together. I'd need help from Francis/Jimmy/Unhammer on the > > best approach (which would probably also be the best approach in other > > Nordic languages) > > I agree with Jacob. > > I am working on a new system for lexical selection,[1] based on > constraints (similar to Constraint Grammar, but finite-state, faster and > with fewer features). It only relies on canonical Apertium components. > --snip-- > > Regarding the bilingual dictionaries, if you would like to use the > module in the future (please use it, it's cool!), then the most > important things are: > > * add as many reliable translations as possible per word. > * do not use LR/RL for lexical selection -- only for grammatical stuff. > It is better to use i="yes", or slr="..." with the for translations [I don't understand this. Is a word missing or something?] > which you don't want to pick. If you use slr, you'll need the > lexchoicebil.xsl script. > > You can choose to mark the default translation or not. In the case that > you don't mark it, it can be learnt. > > Per: Lexical selection is a tiny part of the translation problem from > the point of view of postedition, compared with dictionary coverage or > effective disambiguation. I would only start with it after you are > familiar with the rest. > > Regards, > > Fran > > 1. > http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Constraint-based_lexical_selection_module > 2. > http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/How_to_get_started_with_lexical_selection_rules > 3. > http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Generating_lexical-selection_rules_from_a_parallel_corpus > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
