Don't worry, I understood your points. Thanks for keeping your language and tone respectful.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/23/2008 8:58 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote: > > > What would ARR think if he heard you say this? > > He would think that people are not understanding the purpose of these > songs, and - without seeing the visuals, without knowing the situations > and characters on which these songs are shot, people are going ahead > commenting on the songs after 24 hours listening when he took weeks or > months to visualize and compose each songs. > > He must already be knowing that such situation would come, so he is > mentally prepared for such immature - rather premature comments, and he > has listened to such comments several times. > > (Chord! I am commenting on the original poster's comments. I am sort of > supporting your line of thinking. Hope you got that.) > > > Why would he intentionally create sub-quality work? > > It is not a substandard work at all. > > > Maybe ARR wanted to create light numbers on purpose. > > Exactly, exactly, exactly. > > See, guys! It took a devoted fan like Chord to spell that out. > > Even if these songs appears "light" (read: cheap), they are kept cheap > on purpose - that was the demand of the story, the demand of situation, > they fitted on the characters. > > Remember Nayak? There was a song "Rukhi Sookhi roti". We all were > cursing that song so much when it got released in music album. It was so > cheap, so senseless. And then the movie got released and the song fitted > 100% perfectly in place and became likable. Anybody wishes to dispute that? > > Remember Mangal Pandey. There was a song Rasiya. Though it sounded good, > still, with all those Aatma, Agni, Mangal Mangal, this song sounded so > out of phase in the album. A cheap streetly, love-sex song in an album > on Independence struggle of the country? What had gone wrong with ARR? > But, the film release, and the song fell perfectly in place and we > missed that it was not included fully in film. > > From non-ARR songs, recall a song from film Dushan, Rajesh > Khanna-Mumtaz starrer. There was a song Vaada Tera Vada. That had a line > "tumhaari zulf hai ya, sadak ka mod hai ye". What a stupid simile > metaphor. So uncommon, so tasteless. But, it falls in place when you > come to know that Rajesh Khanna was a truck driver in a film and the > most curves a driver encounters are road turns, that is what he is > saying. When a driver sees a hairlock, he remember some deadly road turn > that he cleverly drove through. > > So guys, let's not prematurely say that a song is cheap or not. You are > saying the songs are cheap listening to it on first day. Just check > archive and I had announced a fortnight earlier just reading the title > of bachchu and latto that we are going to get first sadak-chhap songs > from ARR. > > There is nothing wrong in it. Sadak-chaap is the demand of story, I > guess. that is why ARR composed it thusly, depending on the inputs of > the producer/ director. That is why entire film team accepted these > songs and shot them and included them in the film and in the music album. > > Remember non-ARR song of film Kaamchor, Tumse Badh kar duniya mein na > dekha koi aur. Main male voice is legendary Kishore Kumar's, but there > was a prelogue in some other voice, that sounded like 40s voice of KL > Saigal, Punkaj Mullick, K S Day. You might not even heard these names > who were the emperors of voices 70 years ago. But, who would dare use > similar voice in 1970s, but it was used and the song was a hit and had > come out a lovely song. Being able to give a 40s music in 70s was not a > drawback but was an achievement. > > If a situation wants a song worthy of VS/ SEL/ Himesh, than it is ARR's > duty to give such a song that VS/ SEL/ Himesh would compose. ARR is > working in a system. He is not going to tell the director to change the > script to suit the song that he has composed. > > We end up behaving like tiny tots and spoilt brats when we impose our > views on a song on ARR, on producer, on director. Let's not pamper > ourselves by thinking that we are more intelligent than the entire music > creation and the entire film crew. > > Have some politeness, please. > > > Not each and every song he makes has to be > > a masterpiece, but I think that's the general expectation among many. > > Let me tell you that I am personally not liking Ghajani much because I > find it has too many synthetic sounds than I am comfortable with. Still, > I am listening to it and liking it better than I would like a Himesh > song nowadays. > > ARR is not creating all albums to suit my exact taste. This album he > created for others who like such sounds. I envy those people and I am > happy seeing them enjoy it. I have no right to badmouth a song or an > album because it doesn't meet my taste. The song and the album is good > for those who like this genre of songs. ARR has to give something for > different type of listeners in different albums. > > I am also seeing that some of those people who are enjoying bachchu and > lattoo feeling on defensive for liking these songs, as if their taste is > cheaper or as if they are sons of some lesser god. Please, stand upright > for liking these songs. You have all the rights to decide what you like > and what you don't like and it doesn't make you less human. You are as > much a fan of ARR as a fan who liked Roza or Dil Se or Bombay songs. > > -- > Rawat >