Don't worry, I understood your points.  Thanks for keeping your
language and tone respectful.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 11/23/2008 8:58 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> 
> > What would ARR think if he heard you say this?
> 
> He would think that people are not understanding the purpose of these 
> songs, and - without seeing the visuals, without knowing the situations 
> and characters on which these songs are shot, people are going ahead 
> commenting on the songs after 24 hours listening when he took weeks or 
> months to visualize and compose each songs.
> 
> He must already be knowing that such situation would come, so he is 
> mentally prepared for such immature - rather premature comments, and he 
> has listened to such comments several times.
> 
> (Chord! I am commenting on the original poster's comments. I am sort of 
> supporting your line of thinking. Hope you got that.)
> 
> > Why would he intentionally create sub-quality work?
> 
> It is not a substandard work at all.
> 
> > Maybe ARR wanted to create light numbers on purpose.
> 
> Exactly, exactly, exactly.
> 
> See, guys! It took a devoted fan like Chord to spell that out.
> 
> Even if these songs appears "light" (read: cheap), they are kept cheap 
> on purpose - that was the demand of the story, the demand of situation, 
> they fitted on the characters.
> 
> Remember Nayak? There was a song "Rukhi Sookhi roti". We all were 
> cursing that song so much when it got released in music album. It
was so 
> cheap, so senseless. And then the movie got released and the song
fitted 
> 100% perfectly in place and became likable. Anybody wishes to
dispute that?
> 
> Remember Mangal Pandey. There was a song Rasiya. Though it sounded
good, 
> still, with all those Aatma, Agni, Mangal Mangal, this song sounded so 
> out of phase in the album. A cheap streetly, love-sex song in an album 
> on Independence struggle of the country? What had gone wrong with ARR? 
> But, the film release, and the song fell perfectly in place and we 
> missed that it was not included fully in film.
> 
>  From non-ARR songs, recall a song from film Dushan, Rajesh 
> Khanna-Mumtaz starrer. There was a song Vaada Tera Vada. That had a
line 
> "tumhaari zulf hai ya, sadak ka mod hai ye". What a stupid simile 
> metaphor. So uncommon, so tasteless. But, it falls in place when you 
> come to know that Rajesh Khanna was a truck driver in a film and the 
> most curves a driver encounters are road turns, that is what he is 
> saying. When a driver sees a hairlock, he remember some deadly road
turn 
> that he cleverly drove through.
> 
> So guys, let's not prematurely say that a song is cheap or not. You are 
> saying the songs are cheap listening to it on first day. Just check 
> archive and I had announced a fortnight earlier just reading the title 
> of bachchu and latto that we are going to get first sadak-chhap songs 
> from ARR.
> 
> There is nothing wrong in it. Sadak-chaap is the demand of story, I 
> guess. that is why ARR composed it thusly, depending on the inputs of 
> the producer/ director. That is why entire film team accepted these 
> songs and shot them and included them in the film and in the music
album.
> 
> Remember non-ARR song of film Kaamchor, Tumse Badh kar duniya mein na 
> dekha koi aur. Main male voice is legendary Kishore Kumar's, but there 
> was a prelogue in some other voice, that sounded like 40s voice of KL 
> Saigal, Punkaj Mullick, K S Day. You might not even heard these names 
> who were the emperors of voices 70 years ago. But, who would dare use 
> similar voice in 1970s, but it was used and the song was a hit and had 
> come out a lovely song. Being able to give a 40s music in 70s was not a 
> drawback but was an achievement.
> 
> If a situation wants a song worthy of VS/ SEL/ Himesh, than it is ARR's 
> duty to give such a song that VS/ SEL/ Himesh would compose. ARR is 
> working in a system. He is not going to tell the director to change the 
> script to suit the song that he has composed.
> 
> We end up behaving like tiny tots and spoilt brats when we impose our 
> views on a song on ARR, on producer, on director. Let's not pamper 
> ourselves by thinking that we are more intelligent than the entire
music 
> creation and the entire film crew.
> 
> Have some politeness, please.
> 
> > Not each and every song he makes has to be
> > a masterpiece, but I think that's the general expectation among
many.  
> 
> Let me tell you that I am personally not liking Ghajani much because I 
> find it has too many synthetic sounds than I am comfortable with.
Still, 
> I am listening to it and liking it better than I would like a Himesh 
> song nowadays.
> 
> ARR is not creating all albums to suit my exact taste. This album he 
> created for others who like such sounds. I envy those people and I am 
> happy seeing them enjoy it. I have no right to badmouth a song or an 
> album because it doesn't meet my taste. The song and the album is good 
> for those who like this genre of songs. ARR has to give something for 
> different type of listeners in different albums.
> 
> I am also seeing that some of those people who are enjoying bachchu and 
> lattoo feeling on defensive for liking these songs, as if their
taste is 
> cheaper or as if they are sons of some lesser god. Please, stand
upright 
> for liking these songs. You have all the rights to decide what you like 
> and what you don't like and it doesn't make you less human. You are as 
> much a fan of ARR as a fan who liked Roza or Dil Se or Bombay songs.
> 
> --
> Rawat
>


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