Hey Rawat - 'Khwaja' ka lyrics is written by Kashif and not Jaaved Akthar.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote:
>
> On 3/12/2009 3:11 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote:
> 
> > in fact we watched
> > JA together and during Khwaja mere khwaja as I mentioned that music
> > is by ARR, he said I did not see anything special (sadly enough. may
> > because it was in bad quality. also we know that ARR's music grows
> > but he does not).
> 
> I am a known JA basher so I thought I can say about this song also.
> 
> khwaja song might be holding additional value for muslims due to its 
> religious connotations, and for general fans it might have got some high 
> weightage due to the anecdotes of ARR having composed it already and 
> then AG using it in the film.
> 
> But as a song, I find khwaja song quite barren and monotonous if I can 
> say that. It is a sort of "introvert" song giving a feel that a person 
> must be singing it within his heart and mind. It is his personal 
> pleasure. Others would not be able to connect to it.
> 
> Firstly, the song has some 1:20 initial alaaps that are quire boring to 
> say and kill the entire beauty of song that comes after that. It is more 
> like the sounds generated when a player "tunes up" his instruments 
> before starting to really play it up. Such a long wasted part is a sin 
> in current busy time. Those "ya khwaja ji, moinuddin, gareeb nawaz" are 
> without any lyrical or music value". So, I think the start itself is 
> badly thought up.
> 
> But then the song starts with lovely music BUT, BUT BUT poor lyrics. A 
> typical lack of creativity in the monotonous, "logically-built up" 
> lyrics as is usually the case with Javed Akhtar.
> 
> Khwaja Mere Khwaja
> Dil Mein Sama ja
> Bebaso ki Taqdeer
> Tu ne hai sawari
> 
> There is no rhyming, no deep devotion. All that "dil mein sama ja" type 
> of phrases had been used a 1000 times in cheap ladki-pataao songs in 60s 
> and here he comes up with that in a 21st century devotional song.
> 
> I would say that the major failure of the song remains in the poor 
> lyrics. Then, it fails in arrangements of vocals. None of the voices 
> carry and ethos and pathos. They are just singing an any song, not a 
> religious song for the most respected muslim personality of Indian 
> subcontinent. pronunciations are also not clear. that bebaso ki taqdeer 
> tu ne hai sanwari, has bebaso and tu ne pronounced so pooorly that one 
> has to strain to hear it and make the meaning of it. Sad that it is our 
> man himself.
> 
> And then "Tere darbaar mein khwaza noor ko mainne dekha" has noor 
> pronounced so poorly by our man himself, and then there are alaaps, and 
> then the music gives the impression that the line is going to be 
> repeated, tere darbar mein khwaja - but they drop the line 
> unceremoniously and begin another line    - sar jhukaate hain auliya. 
> What was so great in mentioning that auliya sar jhukate hain, so what, 
> is that why you feel respect for him? I think the respect should have 
> come from within, not due to seeing how others are respecting him.
> 
> and then "tu hai xxxx khwaja - rutaba hai pyara" chahne se tujhko 
> mustafa ko paya" that xxx is still not clear to my aging ears. and 
> lastly that "hai mere peer ka sadqa, tera daman hai thama," tali hai 
> bala hamari, chhaya hai khumar tera, jitna bhi rashq karein beshaq, to 
> ab hai XXX mere khwaja, tere kadmo ko mere rahnuma nahin chhodna gawara. 
> I don't get what exactly is the concept. No rhyming, no poetry, just 
> some words have got hammerred in. It must be the poorest lyrics by Javed.
> 
> I would say that ARR's voice is also not as sweet enough as he is famed 
> for, there is a rare shrillness, a hollow in ARR's voice that I don't 
> remember having heard in any other song. May be he was trying a new 
> voice but it didn't suit my ears.
> 
> all the internal aalaaps also are confusing, making it a classical song. 
> They are not even bringing a sense of a trance.
> 
> And as I already said once that JA music was a personal music and didn't 
> reflect the lavishness of the film.
> 
> I think I can describe now what I meant by that personal vs lavishness. 
> Listen to the music between 3:40 - 4:05. That Persian sort of. Now, that 
> is what I call a royal music, that has lavishness, that has luxury, that 
> is group music, public music. Also the instrument that stars playing at 
> the backdrop at about 6:10 and continues till the end of song. that 
> single instrument is giving a royal touch to the song. That type of 
> music is what I expected to be everywhere in JA music and background, 
> but no, we didn't get that. Our man had different ideas about music 
> suitable for the emperor of India. Compare the above two sounds to the 
> sound at 1:20-1:45. Now this 1:20 sound is what I call a personal sound, 
> lacking royal touch. It is a commoner's, a poor man's sound, now 
> suitable for a period film.
> 
> Seeing so many members liking the song so much, mentioning it as their 
> most fav song, etc., I tried to listen to it several times, but this is 
> one song of ARR that I found lacking in almost each and every aspect.
> --
> 
> Compare that to D6's Arziyaan. Now, Arziyaan is a prayer song that 
> carries you with it and you forget yourself love the journey . perfect 
> sounds, music, emotional voices, all pathos, stopping just short of 
> melodrama of so many manmohan desai's religious songs. I wonder what 
> those who had loved khwaja feel about Arziyaan? One can't go on liking 
> every song otherwise it becomes a hype. One has to love some songs and 
> find some other songs not up to the mark, only then his appraisal of the 
> songs appear realistic.
> 
> --
> Rawat
>


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