Maybe a start?  Shows the biggest sets:

select    count(a.rowid)
,    a.SCHEMAID
,    b.name
from    field_dispprop a
,    arschema b
where    a.schemaid = b.schemaid
group by a.SCHEMAID
,    b.name
having count(a.rowid) > 100
order by COUNT(a.ROWID) desc
/

Axton Grams

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ** Jarl, Axton,
>
> That's exactly what we see during our startup. We were also told to start
> the AR Server by Remedy Support using the -t -s parameters and got exactly
> the same results you guys are talking about - only our field count was in
> the region of about 140K.
>
> Jarl, how did you go about finding out what forms are redundant? Did
> Remedy Support provide you with a list?
>
> Thank you for all your responses..
>
> Cheers
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Axton
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:01 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
>
> ** Remedy just needs to tune the startup of arserver.  That's kind of
> where the problem lies.
>
> start arserver
> ...
> -> fetch 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data and
> use 20k)
>   -> process those 100 records
> -> fetch next 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data
> and use 20k)
>   -> process those 100 records
> -> fetch next 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data
> and use 20k)
>   -> process those 100 records
> ...
>
> No wonder it takes so long.  How about fetching all the data at once, the
> processing it serially, or even better, in parallel.  It is something that
> can be done, but the people at BMC have to be convinced that there is a
> benefit to the customers, and they probably have to be able to directly
> capitalize on it to get a direction from management, neither of which is
> probably going to happen.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Bardsley, Michael <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ** I was told by support that there is a known slow startup issue with a
> > windows/remote oracle database configuration.  We are looking at about 7
> > minutes startup.  My db confirmed that at startup he see's the ARADMIN
> > account pulling little bits of information at a slow pace from 
> > field_dispprop
> > table.  I was told that is the Data Definition files that AR holds in
> > memory.  We have also seen some database timeouts while saving changes in
> > the Admin tool.
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Joe D'Souza
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:37 AM
> >
> > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > *Subject:* Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> >
> >   ** We are running our AR Server at around that much (650,000 K) too.
> > We are experiencing a lag of at least 15 minutes at the start of the
> > services. We are currently working with BMC Support on that.. At Remedy
> > supports suggestion, we tried a 1 GB connection @ Full Duplex between the AR
> > Server and the DB and that didn't help much either.
> >
> > What is the average time you guys are experiencing on restart of AR
> > Services?
> >
> > We are running all the ITSM apps, AIE, CMDB, SLM, BMC RKM, SRM on our AR
> > Server.
> >
> > We have tried tuning the database with the help of our DBA's and none of
> > our efforts produced any significant change in the performance during
> > startup.
> >
> > Even after startup, it does take unreasonably long to save even a light
> > form or save a filter or active link or menus even if we click on the server
> > name on the server window so it doesn't refresh any lists after saving an
> > object..
> >
> > Is anyone else fighting a similar issue?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *strauss
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:50 AM
> > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > *Subject:* Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> >
> > ** Typically ARS 7.1.00.001 runs at about 650,000 K on my Win2K3 x64
> > servers.  The one I have up that has relatively steady development in
> > Kinetic Request going on, plus daily testing of notifications and paging,
> > shows a peak at 825,000 K - and it has been running without a restart since
> > 16 January.  The back end is SQL Server 2005 x64 on separate servers.  It
> > has been a while since I ran any 7.0.01 servers (patch 003, middle of
> > last year), but I believe that 7.1 has a smaller memory footprint.
> >
> > Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> > Call Tracking Administration Manager
> > University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> > http://itsm.unt.edu/
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bardsley, Michael
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:50 AM
> > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > *Subject:* arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> >
> > **
> >
> > Not sure if anyone will be able to provide me a direct answer on this
> > but would anyone be able to tell me about how much memory 
> > arserver.exeshould be consuming on the server after it has been running for 
> > a few days
> > without restarting?
> >
> > I am running ARS 7.0.01 Patch 005 with the full ITSM 7.02 Suite, SLM
> > 7.03, and CMDB 2 on a Windows server pointing to a remote Oracle 10G
> > database.
> >
> > We just recently went live so we have been doing a lot of restarts as we
> > have had to make system changes.  I noticed that after a restart
> > arserver.exe consumes about 700,000 K.
> >
> > After a few days of not restarting I am seeing that the memory footprint
> > has grown to about 1,300,000 K which has me concerned about a memory leak.
> > This may be normal and it may not grow much larger so I will continue to
> > monitor but wanted to toss the question out there..
> >
> > I understand that all environments are different and therefore no one
> > instance is correct but just thought I would ask.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > *Michael Bardsley*
> >
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