If you also add the VUI table you can find forms with a large number
of views that may can be deleted.

--
Jarl

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ** Maybe a start?  Shows the biggest sets:
>
> select    count(a.rowid)
> ,    a.SCHEMAID
> ,    b.name
> from    field_dispprop a
> ,    arschema b
> where    a.schemaid = b.schemaid
> group by a.SCHEMAID
>  ,    b.name
> having count(a.rowid) > 100
> order by COUNT(a.ROWID) desc
> /
>
> Axton Grams
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> > Jarl, Axton,
> >
> > That's exactly what we see during our startup. We were also told to start
> the AR Server by Remedy Support using the -t -s parameters and got exactly
> the same results you guys are talking about - only our field count was in
> the region of about 140K.
> >
> > Jarl, how did you go about finding out what forms are redundant? Did
> Remedy Support provide you with a list?
> >
> > Thank you for all your responses..
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Axton
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:01 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ** Remedy just needs to tune the startup of arserver.  That's kind of
> where the problem lies.
> >
> > start arserver
> > ...
> > -> fetch 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data and
> use 20k)
> >   -> process those 100 records
> > -> fetch next 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data
> and use 20k)
> >   -> process those 100 records
> > -> fetch next 100 of 50000 records from feild_dispprop (read 6mb of data
> and use 20k)
> >   -> process those 100 records
> > ...
> >
> > No wonder it takes so long.  How about fetching all the data at once, the
> processing it serially, or even better, in parallel.  It is something that
> can be done, but the people at BMC have to be convinced that there is a
> benefit to the customers, and they probably have to be able to directly
> capitalize on it to get a direction from management, neither of which is
> probably going to happen.
> >
> > Axton Grams
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Bardsley, Michael
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > > I was told by support that there is a known slow startup issue with a
> windows/remote oracle database configuration.  We are looking at about 7
> minutes startup.  My db confirmed that at startup he see's the ARADMIN
> account pulling little bits of information at a slow pace from
> field_dispprop table.  I was told that is the Data Definition files that AR
> holds in memory.  We have also seen some database timeouts while saving
> changes in the Admin tool.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
>  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:37 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **
> > > We are running our AR Server at around that much (650,000 K) too. We are
> experiencing a lag of at least 15 minutes at the start of the services. We
> are currently working with BMC Support on that.. At Remedy supports
> suggestion, we tried a 1 GB connection @ Full Duplex between the AR Server
> and the DB and that didn't help much either.
> > >
> > > What is the average time you guys are experiencing on restart of AR
> Services?
> > >
> > > We are running all the ITSM apps, AIE, CMDB, SLM, BMC RKM, SRM on our AR
> Server.
> > >
> > > We have tried tuning the database with the help of our DBA's and none of
> our efforts produced any significant change in the performance during
> startup.
> > >
> > > Even after startup, it does take unreasonably long to save even a light
> form or save a filter or active link or menus even if we click on the server
> name on the server window so it doesn't refresh any lists after saving an
> object..
> > >
> > > Is anyone else fighting a similar issue?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of strauss
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:50 AM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> > >
> > > **
> > > Typically ARS 7.1.00.001 runs at about 650,000 K on my Win2K3 x64
> servers.  The one I have up that has relatively steady development in
> Kinetic Request going on, plus daily testing of notifications and paging,
> shows a peak at 825,000 K - and it has been running without a restart since
> 16 January.  The back end is SQL Server 2005 x64 on separate servers.  It
> has been a while since I ran any 7.0.01 servers (patch 003, middle of last
> year), but I believe that 7.1 has a smaller memory footprint.
> > >
> > > Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> > > Call Tracking Administration Manager
> > > University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> > > http://itsm.unt.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
>  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bardsley, Michael
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:50 AM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: arserver.exe Memory Usage 7.0.01
> > >
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > Not sure if anyone will be able to provide me a direct answer on this
> but would anyone be able to tell me about how much memory arserver.exe
> should be consuming on the server after it has been running for a few days
> without restarting?
> > >
> > > I am running ARS 7.0.01 Patch 005 with the full ITSM 7.02 Suite, SLM
> 7.03, and CMDB 2 on a Windows server pointing to a remote Oracle 10G
> database.
> > >
> > > We just recently went live so we have been doing a lot of restarts as we
> have had to make system changes.  I noticed that after a restart
> arserver.exe consumes about 700,000 K.
> > >
> > > After a few days of not restarting I am seeing that the memory footprint
> has grown to about 1,300,000 K which has me concerned about a memory leak.
> This may be normal and it may not grow much larger so I will continue to
> monitor but wanted to toss the question out there..
> > >
> > > I understand that all environments are different and therefore no one
> instance is correct but just thought I would ask.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Michael Bardsley
> >
> >
> >
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