--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity.
> However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is
based
> on all of the names you provided last night.
>
> As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I
> came from that field before becoming a teacher.
>
> First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once
before.
> Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP,
while
> Karl Crudup was President. This "change" to BCBS came with the
fact
> that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are
> definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12%
> the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in
> favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up
> drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to
> the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker
was
> and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are
> out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10%
> fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000.
> There is your 600K in savings minus 100K.
>
> Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't
> need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is
history,
> only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point
> out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another
> school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback
> with the 700K in commission?
>
> Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they
> left out some major details. I would have no problem switching
> insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the
> coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a
> rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost
> you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my
> negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of
> insurance under this so called "savings", would be impossible to
> keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again.
>
> Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the
insurance
> being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the
> correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and
I
> really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he
> should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he
does.
>
> I hope this answers your questions. I think the "source" should
> give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you
can
> reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am
> easily accessible, as you know who I am.
>
> Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> <asburydogma@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you
to
> > join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We
> should
> > be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this
> group.
> > So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies?
Some
> > people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank
> D.
> > You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you
> would
> > have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20-
30-
> > 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and
> Teachers
> > not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this
> > group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for
the
> > record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on.
> >
> >
> > Who am I?
> > Let's just say a family member is in your union.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and
learn
> a
> > > few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In
> > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey Johnny boy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a
> good
> > > > > thing I know most of these names.--- In
> > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <bluebishop82@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing
who
> I
> > am
> > > > > > without me knowing who you are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names
you
> > > > brought
> > > > > > up below, is that you are clearly a half generation
older
> > than
> > > I
> > > > > am.
> > > > > > My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I
> know
> > a
> > > > > > little something about your generation in AP, let's see
if
> I
> > > can
> > > > > > identify some of the people you are refering to below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third
ave.
> > who
> > > I
> > > > > > think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is
that
> > who
> > > > you
> > > > > > mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older
than
> > you.
> > > > > Other
> > > > > > than that I don't know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ducky = Fornicola.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember
the
> > > rest.
> > > > > > Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the
> name
> > > > > Johnny
> > > > > > Cag. Could be a different guy though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son.
> RIP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his
> > younger
> > > > > > brother Micheal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Butch B = Butch from the Pony?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me
by
> 7
> > > > years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rest of your friends I might remember with more info.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was
about
> 5
> > or
> > > 6
> > > > > > when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If
you
> > > mean
> > > > > 7th
> > > > > > ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every
> year
> > > > > through
> > > > > > my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the
> time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention
> hall.
> > > > Jimmy
> > > > > > Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had
> high
> > > > > score
> > > > > > on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in
> pin
> > > ball
> > > > > to
> > > > > > this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was
> owned
> > > by
> > > > > Joe
> > > > > > Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can
> check
> > me
> > > > out
> > > > > > in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the "five
> percenter"
> > > > > > years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book
on
> > Holy
> > > > > > Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10).
> What
> > > year
> > > > > did
> > > > > > you graduate APHS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On what street did you grow up?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <apoojo@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
<asburydogma@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > > > > > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty
<lighty@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10
> more
> > > > > years ,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > was the first and only theatre in the area to show
> > > woodstock,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > movie
> > > > > > > > bb or should it be bs because none of us oldtimers
> > > remember
> > > > > you
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here
> partied
> > > here,
> > > > > > dont
> > > > > > > remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades
etc.,
> > > later
> > > > > > > attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in the
> 80s ,
> > > 90s,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > dont remember you , you are a living legend in your
mind
> > > only,
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > have been present and vocal since you got your job,
god
> > > bless
> > > > > you,
> > > > > > > west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the true
> > > > > definition
> > > > > > > fron the 60s 70s
> > > > > > > > oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late great
> > > comedian
> > > > > > andy
> > > > > > > devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to all
> but
> > do
> > > > not
> > > > > > bull
> > > > > > > shit someone whos been here longer than all of you,
you
> > > insult
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey p.
> johnny
> > > cag,
> > > > > t
> > > > > > > rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy , butch
b. ,
> > > lenny,
> > > > > > frank
> > > > > > > n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike musto,
d.
> > > > klinger
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk about
> the
> > > past
> > > > > > unless
> > > > > > > you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting to
be
> > > > wannabes
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough to
lived
> > > thru
> > > > it,
> > > > > > > (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future and
> work
> > > > > together
> > > > > > > for a better city, drop the false represntations the
> egos
> > > get
> > > > > real
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > continue buying postcards, your choice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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