--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@> wrote:
> >
> >
Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is
lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor
should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and
get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the
commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game
but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it
seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D.
can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why
didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis?
Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have
destroyed that contract.
Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity.
> > However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is
> based
> > on all of the names you provided last night.
> >
> > As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I
> > came from that field before becoming a teacher.
> >
> > First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once
> before.
> > Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP,
> while
> > Karl Crudup was President. This "change" to BCBS came with the
> fact
> > that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are
> > definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately
12%
> > the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in
> > favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up
> > drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss
to
> > the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker
> was
> > and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are
> > out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10%
> > fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000.
> > There is your 600K in savings minus 100K.
> >
> > Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really
don't
> > need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is
> history,
> > only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also
point
> > out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another
> > school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback
> > with the 700K in commission?
> >
> > Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they
> > left out some major details. I would have no problem switching
> > insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the
> > coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a
> > rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only
cost
> > you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my
> > negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of
> > insurance under this so called "savings", would be impossible to
> > keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again.
> >
> > Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the
> insurance
> > being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the
> > correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and
> I
> > really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think
he
> > should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he
> does.
> >
> > I hope this answers your questions. I think the "source" should
> > give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you
> can
> > reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am
> > easily accessible, as you know who I am.
> >
> > Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> > <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you
> to
> > > join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We
> > should
> > > be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this
> > group.
> > > So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies?
> Some
> > > people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via
Frank
> > D.
> > > You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you
> > would
> > > have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20-
> 30-
> > > 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and
> > Teachers
> > > not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this
> > > group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for
> the
> > > record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on.
> > >
> > >
> > > Who am I?
> > > Let's just say a family member is in your union.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and
> learn
> > a
> > > > few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In
> > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Johnny boy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a
> > good
> > > > > > thing I know most of these names.--- In
> > > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<bluebishop82@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing
> who
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > > > without me knowing who you are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names
> you
> > > > > brought
> > > > > > > up below, is that you are clearly a half generation
> older
> > > than
> > > > I
> > > > > > am.
> > > > > > > My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I
> > know
> > > a
> > > > > > > little something about your generation in AP, let's see
> if
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > > > identify some of the people you are refering to below.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third
> ave.
> > > who
> > > > I
> > > > > > > think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is
> that
> > > who
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older
> than
> > > you.
> > > > > > Other
> > > > > > > than that I don't know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ducky = Fornicola.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember
> the
> > > > rest.
> > > > > > > Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and
the
> > name
> > > > > > Johnny
> > > > > > > Cag. Could be a different guy though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son.
> > RIP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his
> > > younger
> > > > > > > brother Micheal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Butch B = Butch from the Pony?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me
> by
> > 7
> > > > > years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The rest of your friends I might remember with more
info.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was
> about
> > 5
> > > or
> > > > 6
> > > > > > > when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If
> you
> > > > mean
> > > > > > 7th
> > > > > > > ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every
> > year
> > > > > > through
> > > > > > > my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at
the
> > time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention
> > hall.
> > > > > Jimmy
> > > > > > > Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I
had
> > high
> > > > > > score
> > > > > > > on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on
in
> > pin
> > > > ball
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was
> > owned
> > > > by
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can
> > check
> > > me
> > > > > out
> > > > > > > in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the "five
> > percenter"
> > > > > > > years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book
> on
> > > Holy
> > > > > > > Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10).
> > What
> > > > year
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > you graduate APHS?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On what street did you grow up?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <apoojo@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> <asburydogma@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > > > > > > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty
> <lighty@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10
> > more
> > > > > > years ,
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > was the first and only theatre in the area to show
> > > > woodstock,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > movie
> > > > > > > > > bb or should it be bs because none of us oldtimers
> > > > remember
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here
> > partied
> > > > here,
> > > > > > > dont
> > > > > > > > remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades
> etc.,
> > > > later
> > > > > > > > attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in the
> > 80s ,
> > > > 90s,
> > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > dont remember you , you are a living legend in your
> mind
> > > > only,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > have been present and vocal since you got your job,
> god
> > > > bless
> > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the
true
> > > > > > definition
> > > > > > > > fron the 60s 70s
> > > > > > > > > oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late great
> > > > comedian
> > > > > > > andy
> > > > > > > > devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to all
> > but
> > > do
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > bull
> > > > > > > > shit someone whos been here longer than all of you,
> you
> > > > insult
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey p.
> > johnny
> > > > cag,
> > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy , butch
> b. ,
> > > > lenny,
> > > > > > > frank
> > > > > > > > n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike musto,
> d.
> > > > > klinger
> > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk about
> > the
> > > > past
> > > > > > > unless
> > > > > > > > you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting to
> be
> > > > > wannabes
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough to
> lived
> > > > thru
> > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future and
> > work
> > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > for a better city, drop the false represntations the
> > egos
> > > > get
> > > > > > real
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > continue buying postcards, your choice.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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