Obviously you missed the entire point. The first year was a come
on. The second year, no matter what company, was going to be higher.
As for the five year contract, once again, the "source" was wrong.
It is 4 years, 1 left on the prior year and 3 more. And how would
have Russ gotten rid of a contract. Maybe you could teach me how to
that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is
> lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore
nor
> should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around
and
> get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the
> commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this
game
> but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and
it
> seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank
D.
> can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why
> didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to
Lewis?
> Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have
> destroyed that contract.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity.
> > > However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is
> > based
> > > on all of the names you provided last night.
> > >
> > > As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as
I
> > > came from that field before becoming a teacher.
> > >
> > > First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once
> > before.
> > > Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP,
> > while
> > > Karl Crudup was President. This "change" to BCBS came with
the
> > fact
> > > that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You
are
> > > definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately
> 12%
> > > the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in
> > > favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone
up
> > > drastically to the point that the savings were now a major
loss
> to
> > > the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a
broker
> > was
> > > and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you
are
> > > out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a
10%
> > > fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly
$700,000.
> > > There is your 600K in savings minus 100K.
> > >
> > > Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really
> don't
> > > need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is
> > history,
> > > only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also
> point
> > > out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another
> > > school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a
kickback
> > > with the 700K in commission?
> > >
> > > Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think
they
> > > left out some major details. I would have no problem
switching
> > > insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if
the
> > > coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer,
and a
> > > rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only
> cost
> > > you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my
> > > negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost
of
> > > insurance under this so called "savings", would be impossible
to
> > > keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again.
> > >
> > > Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the
> > insurance
> > > being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically
the
> > > correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote
and
> > I
> > > really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I
think
> he
> > > should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he
> > does.
> > >
> > > I hope this answers your questions. I think the "source"
should
> > > give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want,
you
> > can
> > > reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I
am
> > > easily accessible, as you know who I am.
> > >
> > > Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> > > <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell
you
> > to
> > > > join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We
> > > should
> > > > be honored to have the President of the teachers union in
this
> > > group.
> > > > So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies?
> > Some
> > > > people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via
> Frank
> > > D.
> > > > You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and
you
> > > would
> > > > have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing?
20-
> > 30-
> > > > 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and
> > > Teachers
> > > > not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from
this
> > > > group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just
for
> > the
> > > > record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Who am I?
> > > > Let's just say a family member is in your union.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and
> > learn
> > > a
> > > > > few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In
> > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1"
<apeaexec1@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Johnny boy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here.
It's a
> > > good
> > > > > > > thing I know most of these names.--- In
> > > > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> <bluebishop82@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of
knowing
> > who
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > > > > without me knowing who you are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The reason you don't remember me, based upon the
names
> > you
> > > > > > brought
> > > > > > > > up below, is that you are clearly a half generation
> > older
> > > > than
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > am.
> > > > > > > > My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to
you I
> > > know
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > little something about your generation in AP, let's
see
> > if
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > identify some of the people you are refering to
below.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from
third
> > ave.
> > > > who
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > think was there the night Artie Dello was killed.
Is
> > that
> > > > who
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older
> > than
> > > > you.
> > > > > > > Other
> > > > > > > > than that I don't know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ducky = Fornicola.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't
remember
> > the
> > > > > rest.
> > > > > > > > Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and
> the
> > > name
> > > > > > > Johnny
> > > > > > > > Cag. Could be a different guy though.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's
son.
> > > RIP.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with
his
> > > > younger
> > > > > > > > brother Micheal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Butch B = Butch from the Pony?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has
me
> > by
> > > 7
> > > > > > years.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The rest of your friends I might remember with more
> info.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was
> > about
> > > 5
> > > > or
> > > > > 6
> > > > > > > > when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there.
If
> > you
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > > 7th
> > > > > > > > ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family
every
> > > year
> > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at
> the
> > > time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside
convention
> > > hall.
> > > > > > Jimmy
> > > > > > > > Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I
> had
> > > high
> > > > > > > score
> > > > > > > > on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you
on
> in
> > > pin
> > > > > ball
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it
was
> > > owned
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You
can
> > > check
> > > > me
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the "five
> > > percenter"
> > > > > > > > years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new
book
> > on
> > > > Holy
> > > > > > > > Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was
10).
> > > What
> > > > > year
> > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > you graduate APHS?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On what street did you grow up?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo"
<apoojo@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> > <asburydogma@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > > > > > > > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty
> > <lighty@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the
Baronet.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back
10
> > > more
> > > > > > > years ,
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > was the first and only theatre in the area to show
> > > > > woodstock,
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > movie
> > > > > > > > > > bb or should it be bs because none of us
oldtimers
> > > > > remember
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here
> > > partied
> > > > > here,
> > > > > > > > dont
> > > > > > > > > remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades
> > etc.,
> > > > > later
> > > > > > > > > attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in
the
> > > 80s ,
> > > > > 90s,
> > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > dont remember you , you are a living legend in
your
> > mind
> > > > > only,
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > have been present and vocal since you got your
job,
> > god
> > > > > bless
> > > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > > west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the
> true
> > > > > > > definition
> > > > > > > > > fron the 60s 70s
> > > > > > > > > > oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late
great
> > > > > comedian
> > > > > > > > andy
> > > > > > > > > devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to
all
> > > but
> > > > do
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > bull
> > > > > > > > > shit someone whos been here longer than all of
you,
> > you
> > > > > insult
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey
p.
> > > johnny
> > > > > cag,
> > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy ,
butch
> > b. ,
> > > > > lenny,
> > > > > > > > frank
> > > > > > > > > n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike
musto,
> > d.
> > > > > > klinger
> > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk
about
> > > the
> > > > > past
> > > > > > > > unless
> > > > > > > > > you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting
to
> > be
> > > > > > wannabes
> > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough to
> > lived
> > > > > thru
> > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > > (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future
and
> > > work
> > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > for a better city, drop the false represntations
the
> > > egos
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > continue buying postcards, your choice.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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