--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom, the NYCLPC was the first landmark's 
> commission in the US, and the Brooklyn Heights district was the 
>first 
> designated and protected landmark in the country. I am sorry, but 
> although I disgree with them often, I will defer to their 
expertise 
> over yours. 

First doesn't always mean best.  Heck, Delaware was first.

Why you would ever believe in those guys from NY over your follow 
AP'er is beyond me :-)

> You assume that criteria for judgment can be exact and 
> specific. The law itself cannot cover all bases yet you expect 
> standards for abstractions and aesthetics to do so?

It isn't me assuming, my good man!  My standards used wighted 
averages.  Very flexible and open to debate.  The only veto was in 
areas of economics.

Putting buildings on Historic Registers drive up the cost of 
renovation so much so it can actually lead to the destruction of the 
building.  That's what happened to the Palace.  Like some sort of 
Greek Tragedy, the Save Tillie people were the most responsible for 
knocking that place down by driving up renovation costs.


As for the Casino, if just being a public space makes it important, 
then I guess you would save our ugly train station?

Warren and Wetmore aren't Gods.  They did good work and bad.  Just 
look at both ends of our boardwalk.  Certain people can get a pass 
for less than good work just on the importance of their name - Da 
Vinci, Michealangelo.

Not Warren and Wetmore.  They get judged.  I judge that they 
designed the Casino on a drunken Holloween night.

I will re-issue a challange I made on this board about a year ago. 
Someone please find me anyone who remembers going to a show at the 
Casino.  The place was routinely boarded up when I was a kid and I'm 
43.

You have to find someone in their 60's or 70's who may have caught a 
show there, and the show I bet will be insignificant like a circus 
or something.

The place simply lacks any important human history whatsoever.  It's 
ugly.  There is less of it than more of it, so you wouldn't realy be 
saving it anyway.

This argument runs the same as the rest about old buildings in AP - 
the people who knew the place in years past say knock it down, those 
who never saw it ane are over-romanitcizing it want to keep it.  
Honest question:  Why does that keep happening?

We are arguing over nothing anyway, because the Casino is going to 
be saved.  You know Asbury Park - why have one empty, barely used 
Convention Center when we can have two! 




 
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