do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and drugies 
for years? i still drive by there today and see hookers hanging out 
in front of that eyesore deli...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <rolemover@> wrote:
> >
> > no the hooker deli has kept asbury down for a long time...
> 
> I disagree but that is my opinion.
> 
> > 
> > my point was that you were not here to see what asbury looked 
like 
> 10 
> > years ago...i am very happy that you keep your property nice, if 
> > everyone took pride in that also, asbury would be a much better 
> > place...pride is important
> 
> Well that is different and I am glad you clarified that because it 
> sounded as like their was seniority issue at play. I'm glad that we 
> understand each other.
> 
> >...do you think that your constant 
> > grumbling about the council and the partners really helps?
> 
> I only grumble about one thing - the redevelopment and the majority 
> on the council's inability/unwillingness to make Partners fulfill 
> its obligations.
>  
> > from someone who has been around, could things be better? 
> yes...are 
> > they much better than they were 5 years ago? HELL YES....thats 
> what 
> > im saying...
> 
> I appreciate your perspective and I think I have responded to that 
> many times. Under any circumstances, things could always be better. 
> However, because things are somewhat better now, should not be a 
> reason to not demand that promises made be kept. I am very aware 
> that things are "relatively" better than they were. However, the 
> longer someone has been here the more they should want (and 
possibly 
> deserve) that these promises be kept. Don't settle for less. As a 
> long-time resident you deserve it. Four years is just too long to 
> have not started the restoration. It will not be finished for a 
> number of years if at all. There is no reason why the whole thing 
> (waterfront restoration) could not have been completed within 5-6 
> years at the most. Real developers would have done it in less. The 
> council really feels the same way, but won;t say it publicly, 
> although it did say it somewhat last December. Partners doesn;t 
have 
> what it takes. Believe me. If it did we would be well on our way 
> already. The council's job is to make sure it gets done and it 
> hasn't. It has not prodded Partners. Sorry, but they have to get my 
> complaints then. The same thing goes for the Triangle and C-8. You 
> just can't operate that way. At least Aaron has been marginalized - 
> that the council finally saw. I would be very happy to shut up if 
> they just came through. Eventually somebody hears, so yes, the 
> complaints do do some good. At least I'll try.
>





 
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