But everytime we print signs in Spanish, newspapers, applications,
have TV stations, radio stations, etc., we make it easier to not
learn English.
Somewhere there's a tipping point where you go from helping someone
out of a disadvantaged situation to making it easy for them to stay
disadvantaged.
When we allow communities where people can get by without English as
you say, then clearly we are keeping them at a disadvantage.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I don't think anyone is really counseling people not to learn
> English, but it is naive to think someone can move here as an
adult
> and easily learn to speak English well while working a very long
> day. It is hard to learn a second language if you are studying it
> full time, it is even harder if you have to work all day.
>
> Of course, there are those people who come to this country and
just
> do not bother to learn English because maybe they are older, or
just
> live in a community where he or she can get by without it, but
there
> are many others who would love the opportunity to study, and who
are
> learning as best as they can, but who must also work to support
> their families.
>
> A friend of mine (native Spanish speaker, fluent English speaker,
> bonafide surfing champion) was joking with me that I should move
> down to CR permanently and be a lawyer there. I laughed and
said, "I
> do not speak Spanish. Do you know how long it would take me to not
> only learn how to speak Spanish fluently, but also to read and
write
> in Spanish well enough to be a lawyer in Costa Rica???" Yet, some
> how people here think it is so easy to learn to speak English.
>
> That being the case, how do we communicate with a significant
number
> of residents who do not, at this time, speak English very well? We
> can open an English as a second language school, for adults, for
> free, so that everyone who wants to learn has that opportunity,
but
> even if such a school exists, it would still take years for those
> students to speak well enough to be able to open more doors.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think Oak disagreed with me.
> >
> > Whether learning some other languages will kick open a few more
> > doors for you is a different topic.
> >
> > Being in America and not learning English will close a whole
bunch
> > of doors.
> >
> > I see it as a real human rights issue. Anyone who isn't
> counselling
> > people to learn English in America is hurting those people.
> >
> > Would you ask them to get a job in a lab and not learn science?
> > You'd be hurting them if you counselled them to do so.
> >
> > LEARN ENGLISH - FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, NOT MINE!!!
> >
> > Of course I also make it a point to not do to much to convince
> them
> > of my point. America is about competition. If they want to
give
> me
> > a competive advantage and leave themselves disadvantage, I won't
> > complain too loudly.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz"
> <fancypaaantz@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Oakdof.
> > >
> > > please stop agreeing....
> > >
> >
>
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