Has anyone checked out the "Hot Dog House" on Cookman (sorry, I
didn't get the building number) it is on the north side of the street
near the west end by Main. I had a great time... I imagined it to be
a bit like (from what I have read) "The Student Prince".
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre"
<gabrielleo...@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the BW isn't ALL high end retail like you suggested. There is
> entertainment like you think there should be and lets see...the
music
> scene seems pretty lively, just not to your liking for reasons I
can't
> figure out other than it not being the same as when you were in HS.
5
> venues + a dance club.
>
> I know you will get other chronically dissatisfied people to agree
> with you but thats the way unhappiness works, sorta like a magnet.
>
> How often do you go to any of the restaurants/bars on the BW?
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > "I also think your perception about ap is
> > off"
> >
> > How can you judge somebody else's perception?
> > That's kinda ridiculous.
> > Not everybody sees the world thru your eyes.
> > Sorry, but I disagree.
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre"
<gabrielleobre@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I certainly wasn't looking for an apology. People can be as
unhappy as
> > > they wish. Lots of people live the "things would be better
if..."
> > > life. I just think its kinda sad and I will reiterate it has
more to
> > > do with us than the world. I also think your perception about
ap is
> > > off and would like others to know that there is a tremendous
amount to
> > > enjoy and love here. There are plenty of posts about ap's
failings.
> > >
> > > i am probably ignorant about springsteen, i mostly listen to
lesser
> > > known artists. Loved him when I was 11. springsteen is a tiny
drop in
> > > a sea of great music. and he hardly needs the attention.
> > >
> > > It also seems sorta pointless to complain here. You should be
at city
> > > council meetings. Volunteering for commissions.
> > >
> > > In my experience, the people who complain the most (and i don't
just
> > > mean here) are those that don't participate in the vibrancy of
the
> > > place; the food, the nightlife, the celebrations.
> > >
> > > people are enjoying it and will probably continue to do so. I
wish you
> > > and the others for whom delight is so out of reach would but
that's up
> > > to you. the world will never mold to our own ego's
specifications so
> > > our choice is to become open loving participants, try to become
a
> > > power mongering tyrant, or be miserable. not a difficult choice
for
> > > me. (and i love a little dissatisfaction myself once in a
while...all
> > > egos do).
> > >
> > > I hope others make it to the economical entertainment on the
31st. And
> > > paradise is always a great place to have ...dare i say it, FUN!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You know what?
> > > > I make no apologies about my opinions of AP.
> > > > I'm not going to be dishonest to myself or anybody about it.
> > > > I think what we have now is a pale version of what we could
have,
> > > and once had.
> > > > I think were merely accepting something marginal, and I don't
feel
> > > bad at all in saying it.
> > > > Sorry.
> > > > Currently the boardwalk draws a fraction of what it once did.
It's
> > > better then it was in
> > > > recent years, but nothing like what it could be.
> > > > And as part of the local music scene, yes, we have one, but
once
> > > again, since I work in the
> > > > business I feel confident in saying that it also isn't what
it could
> > > be, but it's the best that it
> > > > can be at the moment.
> > > > Obviously you don't know much about Springsteen and his
connection
> > > to the city.
> > > > His most famous album is callled "Greetings from Asbury Park"
and
> > > the album cover is a
> > > > classic post card from it's heyday.
> > > > He rose up in the scene playing at local clubs, most of which
no
> > > longer exist. His name is
> > > > inextricably associated with the city.
> > > > We all have different likes and dislikes, and there's nothing
wrong
> > > with expressing that.
> > > > You ask me what I like about AP? Plenty. I love my classic
apartment
> > > and being so close to
> > > > the beach for a reasonable price. I love the architecture of
> > > Convention Hall and the
> > > > acoustics of The Paramount. I love The Saint, where I work. I
> > > absolutely love Cookman
> > > > Avenue because it still has a classic look with character.
> > > > But, i greatly dislike the way the boardwalk pavilions have
been
> > > renovated. It says nothing
> > > > at all to me. I don't like the architecture at all. I see a
strip
> > > mall, but that's just me. I
> > > > greatly dislike the fact that the band shell has been
eliminated and
> > > that nobody is taking
> > > > MM to task about it. I think high end retail is a waste of
space
> > > destined for failure.,
> > > > On the other hand, I love that there's a bike store there,
because
> > > bicycling by the sea
> > > > really appeals to me. It's a big fixture in Atlantic City,
Cape May,
> > > and scores of similar
> > > > places across the country.
> > > > My discontent has nothing to do with the vibe in the country,
in
> > > fact, AP is a safe haven
> > > > away from it because it's my home.
> > > > Finally, with all due respect, you've never met me. I'm
probably the
> > > most immature 47 year
> > > > old person I know. Smarter, but still very similar to the
teenage
> > > me. I'm more about
> > > > aesthetics then money, more about The Adriatic then Applebees.
> > > > I've also spent a huge amount of time living and working
overseas,
> > > where they tend to
> > > > value history more then we do, and preserve things rather then
> > > rebuild, and when they do
> > > > rebuild they tend to stay faithful to what went before.
> > > > Here in America, it's the opposite for much of the country.
We don't
> > > build buildings to last
> > > > anymore, we build them to knock down and replace because of
money.
> > > And I think that's
> > > > a great loss.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre"
<gabrielleobre@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > once again, my unpopular I heart AP response.
> > > > >
> > > > > for starters, ap HAS a vibrant music scene, right now.
Perhaps it
> > > > > doesn't stir the emotions of when you were a teen. We live
> now, not
> > > > > 20, 30 years ago. And the comments I have been hearing from
> people the
> > > > > past few summers actually reflect that ap does stir good
> memories, not
> > > > > sure how many of you spend time in the local bizes, but I
do.
> I hear
> > > > > it. I can't wait to check out the Stone Pony. English
> Beat..yippee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Its not all "high end" anything. I think there are two
design like
> > > > > stores that are out of the average persons pay range, so
what,
> > > > > everyone is supposed to live on my budget? good for those
who
> can buy
> > > > > an 800$ chaise. and wonderful for the retail owners who can
> pay their
> > > > > rent with it. this is monmouth county, there is lots of $$
> here, let
> > > > > them spend it in AP.
> > > > >
> > > > > O'tools is reasonable, that fried food place in CH is
> reasonable there
> > > > > were all sorts of little knick knack shops that remind me
> precisely of
> > > > > what was BW like years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the 31st you can sample cocktails for 5 bucks in CH,
bring
> a flask
> > > > > if you need more of a buzz, then you can walk down to
paradise
> and if
> > > > > you get there before 9 ish you can dance for free. and be
> entertained
> > > > > if you are prone to enjoyment. they usually have drink
specials.
> > > > > langostas menu looks reasonable and the space is beautiful
> (someone
> > > > > mentioned they were packed last sat)
> > > > >
> > > > > the mini waterpark looks like loads of fun, the numerous
festivals
> > > > > that come are a blast, thinking of the beautiful kite one
at the
> > > > > moment, volleyball, road trip etc. there is regularly free
> music on
> > > > > the BW.
> > > > >
> > > > > for someone who mentioned somewhere else they are sick of
> negativity,
> > > > > you dish it out a lot Jack. is there anything you like
about the
> > > place?
> > > > >
> > > > > as far as the Bruce thing goes, what's the connection other
> than he
> > > > > sung about how depressed the place was? I don't need to
> romanticize
> > > > > the badlands anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > is it perfect? no way. but neither is anything else. I
really wish
> > > > > people would stop bitching about the place which often
seems to me
> > > > > people projecting their general unhappiness onto the world
around
> > > > > them. what you see in the world has more to do with what is
in
> your
> > > > > head than what is in the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > its so weird to me, everything you want is already here.
except
> > > > > perhaps the teenage you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer"
<hinge98@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The wnew stuff was only around for a few years- one day.
Yep -
> > > we'd
> > > > > > make a killing in a few hours, but NOTHING like being
able to
> > > open at
> > > > > > 7am and close around midnight, at least in my time. If a
big
> > > group came
> > > > > > into town and it was hot - we'd just stay open as long as
we
> > > could -
> > > > > > not close at 9pm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's how you run a business that relies on hot weather
and
> > > more - you
> > > > > > open early and stay open late and you can't do it alone.
If
> someone
> > > > > > needs to hit a golf ball, play for stuffed animal or
share a
> > > kohr's as
> > > > > > it dribbles down your body or ride a carousel or just sit
and
> > > look at
> > > > > > the water or lay in the sand - it's called summer. You
stay
> open at
> > > > > > NIGHT, so people can spend money. Junk food = profit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's 11 degrees.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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