If the park is such a valued and cherished area of the "Historical Society" (I
use that term very loosely) how come none of it members are patrolling it and
cleaning it like other organizations do for the other green spaces in the city?
I regularly patrol/clean up a green space by my home and I don't belong to any
association.
Sometimes if you want things done right you have to do them yourselves
Your argument is flawed, has very little merit. By no means will the WHOLE park
be consumed by a dog park. That's silly. The dog beach is not open to animals
during the day. Yappy Hour is once/twice a week.
Have you ever been to a dog park? You talk as if they're filled with feces and
just plain dirty. In 25yrs of owning dogs and bringing them to dog parks, I
have yet to see that
You assume the dog owners who want this are lazy. Have you ever walked in AP at
7am? Do it, no one is lazy. Dog parks are not intended to be a shit/piss fest
or for exercise, they are for socialization, like a bar or coffee shop for
humans (you should try one sometime)
And for your "society" to install things and expect others to maintain them....
is in fact LAZY
Thank you,
C. Brian Watkins
cbrianwatk...@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Thoman <byline4...@optonline.net>
Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:55:21
To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in
years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and
garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the
park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance
department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given
the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the
vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs
will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that
exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs!
On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote:
>
> The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years.
>
> The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7
> years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and
> sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken
> and used as a garbage receptacle.
>
> The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman <byline4336@...> wrote:
> >
> > As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of
> > others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's
> > presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a
> > dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of
> > $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included
> > restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the
> > many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that
> > as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for
> > the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside
> > for the dog's "socialization" as she called it. The park historically was
> > intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine
> > population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property
> > over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners
> > and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach
> > area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the
> > dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation
> > of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be
> > determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint
> > members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I
> > volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard
> > a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have
> > have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park
> > City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making
> > process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from
> > oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes!
> >
> > Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park
> > Historical Society
> >
>
>
>
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