The city does a great job of keeping the park clean. And the city has quiet a 
fewother problem areas that need police attention. 

The park is ignored by the general public for some very simple reasons. First 
off, there's nor a single park bench there. Secondly, because it's so unused by 
the general public, the street people who spend time in it scare people away. 
And that's exactly why the dog loving community will bring new life to the 
park. An empty park invites trouble. Now, the park will have a reason to 
attract people. More people will make the park less attractive for misuse. 

I'm sorry, but your organization is completely out of touch with the reality of 
dog parks, and their benefits. If you are going to have a negative opinion 
about something you obviously know nothing about, then I suggest you do some 
research and educate yourselves. Like I said, you should go and visit the dog 
park in Oceanport. It's big, beautiful, and clean, and it attracts a wonderful 
community of people. Library Square Park, as it stands today attracts nobody. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman <byline4336@...> wrote:
>
> Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in 
> years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom 
> and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around 
> the park?  Could the answer possibly be that the city,  i.e.. the maintenance 
> department and police department,  have not cleaned/patrolled the park?  
> Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep 
> the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that  the 
> dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park?  The problems 
> that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs!
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in 
> > years. 
> > 
> > The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 
> > 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought 
> > and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is 
> > broken and used as a garbage receptacle. 
> > 
> > The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman <byline4336@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority 
> > > of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's 
> > > presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having 
> > > a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess 
> > > of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which 
> > > included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to 
> > > water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms 
> > > Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion 
> > > of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of 
> > > the beach set aside for the dog's "socialization" as she called it. The 
> > > park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not 
> > > for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this 
> > > historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for 
> > > the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk 
> > > their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible 
> > > for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying 
> > > for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. 
> > > Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area 
> > > progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to 
> > > the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that 
> > > committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. 
> > > Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the 
> > > council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for 
> > > including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even 
> > > though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you 
> > > have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes!
> > > 
> > > Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park 
> > > Historical Society
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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>




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