> PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF > RULES.That's exactly what I said. > Kamal.
Exactly correct Sir. I do agree. > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:25:11 -0500 > From: kjit.d...@gmail.com > To: assam@assamnet.org > Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > > PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF > RULES.That's exactly what I said. > Kamal. > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Sushanta Kar <pragyan.ts...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > *"I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There > > are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased." > > * > > Correct words Kamal! That's why I don't prescribe those ideas that > > Chauvinism here is only Assamese Specific. That's why I wrote , it's a > > British and post British Indian disease. It's Bengali, whom parochialism is > > nonparallel to any other Indian. It's Bengali, who started imitating the > > very British concept of Nation State Building in India. And the result is > > Division of Bengal. > > > > Rest are on you. You are intelligent enough to get the points. No truth can > > be erased. You need not to. Dhruba Jyoti, and possibly you too, can't > > imagine that even I'm concerned about the future of Assam and Assamese, > > where Bengali may turned into majority. Dhruba Jyoti is right, a good > > section of Bengali elite are waiting for the day silently. And If all the > > immigrant muslim write their mother tongue as Bengali in next census the day > > is not far . > > But, my point is can hatred solve the problem? > > One hate you, so you hate him in return. Where is the end? > > We had our own mechanism of unity and assimilation in Pre-British India and > > Assam. > > No one was concerned about who is Bengali and Assamese then. Most of the > > people doesn't knew the meaning of such words. > > What we can do is, We can invent those age old mechanism, edit the present > > truth and re-write the history. > > It doesn't matter , if any Assamese like Dhruba Jyoti hate me or not, Assam > > was/ is My Land. I'm one of those minority Democrat ( Be they Assamese or > > Bengali or whatever else) do believe from my heart that it's Assam and NE > > India will teach India how to re-invent and practice true spirit of India > > "Unity in Diversity', Teach India how to respect and accept the 'OTHERS' and > > live in with peace and tranquility. > > > > > > Sushanta Kar > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kamal deka <kjit.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> To all Netters save moderator, > >> Lest I be misunderstood,let me be explicit here by saying that I am > >> not ,by any reckoning,trying to defend Dhrubojyoti Deka for allegedly > >> using unpolished and unrefined words ( I don't know if he did) in this > >> Net. > >> > >> However,it reminds me of Voltaire, who once suggested that he would > >> disagree with his opponent, but would defend to the death the > >> opponent's right to have an opinion. We simply cannot force him to > >> self-censor.That will be a naughty, naughty idea. > >> > >> I was born in Tinsukia and spent quiet a few years of my life there.I > >> know how it feels like to be an Assamese in that milieu--a town where > >> we were the only Assamese ( in the main town).I also spent a few years > >> in Silchar and I had a providential escape one night during the peak > >> of Assam Movement.Those pontificating goody two shoes will never be > >> able to convince me about certain things which will remain indelibly > >> branded in my memory .I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There > >> are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. > >> > >> FINALLY,PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH SIDES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME > >> SET OF RULES. > >> > >> Kamaljit Deka > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka > >> <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Are you threatening me? By showing CC, Moderator at top? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Nothing to response your meaningless sentances. > >> > > >> >> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:32:23 -0700 > >> >> From: ankur_bora2...@yahoo.com > >> >> To: assam@assamnet.org > >> >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > >> >> > >> >> Cc : Moderator , Assam Net > >> >> > >> >> Dhruba Jyoti , > >> >> > >> >> You mentioned in your earlier posting that you were kidding about the > >> topic. Your subsequent postings are quite contrary to that. > >> >> Are you kidding or are ‘you serious ? > >> >> If you are serious, have you noticed the list of websites below the > >> signature of Sushanta. Have you gone through the online link of “Pragyan”? > >> Pragyan is a fruition of painstaking work of Sushanta and teachers of > >> Tinsukia college. Pragyan has guided thousands of studenst of Tinsukia and > >> that region in career planning , higher study , creativity and leadership. > >> There are valuable articles published in the Assamese section of Pragyan > >> related to Assamese language , culture and history. > >> >> In the story of blind men and the elephant , each man described the > >> animal based on the part that they could feel i.e. the foreleg , the tail > >> and the trunk. Each one insisted that he alone was correct. Of course, > >> there > >> was no conclusion for not one had thoroughly examined the whole elephant. > >> Their observation was limited to parts of the body, they could not realize > >> the magnificence and the splendor of the majestic creature. > >> >> Would you continue to focus only on the “signature dots” or will you > >> open yourself to the total of the parts ? > >> >> I am not kidding here , seriously. > >> >> Ankur Bora > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > >> >> To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the > >> world" <assam@assamnet.org> > >> >> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 1:55 PM > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Sorry for that. But i have seen usage of such slang recently by 2 senior > >> fellow here. > >> >> > >> >> > From: absarangap...@hotmail.com > >> >> > To: cmaha...@gmail.com; assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:39:15 +0000 > >> >> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > >> >> > > >> >> > That's what I was going to say. Can we or should we bear with this > >> type of behavior here in Assam Net? I can't believe in today's world this > >> type of mentality is still there. I thought it was a passe`. > >> >> > > >> >> > -ABS > >> >> > > >> >> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: Chan Mahanta <cmaha...@gmail.com> > >> >> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:22:48 > >> >> > To: <assam@assamnet.org> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > >> >> > > >> >> > Dhruba: > >> >> > > >> >> > Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum > >> like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have > >> been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been > >> instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. > >> >> > > >> >> > Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't > >> care who. > >> >> > > >> >> > I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I > >> invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! > >> Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things > >> straight, silence is not a virtue. > >> >> > > >> >> > cm > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will > >> not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character > >> limitation. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Now, Mr Sushanta, you a***** deserve only hatred. And what the hell > >> is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. > >> >> > > This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. > >> Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but > >> never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write > >> is > >> another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about > >> Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british > >> for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis > >> are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one > >> day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter > >> bangladeshi. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com > >> >> > >> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 > >> >> > >> To: assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > >> Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Dear > >> >> > >> Krishnendu and others > >> >> > >> "'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in > >> arms to > >> >> > >> discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> That's why very few Bengali come and join here. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate > >> Bengali. There > >> >> > >> is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. > >> >> > >> I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali here in Assam > >> and > >> >> > >> Elsewhere who also hate Assamese and never talk anything positive > >> about > >> >> > >> them. I have bad experiences with them either. > >> >> > >> The point is, dose Dhruba Deka and people like him want that > >> those people > >> >> > >> living in Assam and speak languages other then Assamese should > >> create > >> >> > >> separate group and talk all the rubbish like Dhrubajyoti against > >> Assamese. > >> >> > >> Will it be a healthy practice? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> As far my knowledge goes, in University level Assamese was first > >> introduced > >> >> > >> in Kolkata University. After creation of GU and DU Assamese > >> department there > >> >> > >> ceased to exist only because dearth of Student. Saying thus, I > >> don't want to > >> >> > >> certify West Bengal as as ideal state of the country. I don't > >> need to. > >> >> > >> Because that was/ is not my state. > >> >> > >> Rather , Personally I think , it's a disease which was imported > >> from modern > >> >> > >> Europe and has infected whole the country and all the states.( I'm > >> talking > >> >> > >> about the very concept of 'Nation State and nation Building'.) > >> Every one is > >> >> > >> here busy with creating their own nation. And so, no where in > >> India minority > >> >> > >> linguistic groups enjoys the equal status and honor. Most of the > >> linguistic > >> >> > >> group has no state to claim their own. That's why Rajbonshis are > >> fighting > >> >> > >> against both Assam and Bengal government for recognition of their > >> mother > >> >> > >> tongues. > >> >> > >> Ask them , they will say if the government and Middle Class > >> Bengali and > >> >> > >> Assamese has any different attitude towards them. To my knowledge, > >> No. No > >> >> > >> one want them to secede from the Majority language! If they are > >> Bengali, > >> >> > >> then WB Bengali should have been fight for their right in Assam. > >> If they are > >> >> > >> Assamese ,Assamese should have been fight for their right in > >> Bengal. But, > >> >> > >> who bother? Rather friends like Dhruba Jyoti Deka prefer to > >> behave same > >> >> > >> way in thier own state. This was he will forget those Assamese > >> who lives > >> >> > >> elsewhere, specially in WB and Bangladesh. His Bengali counterpart > >> will > >> >> > >> exclude those Bengali who live out side the Border of WB. > >> >> > >> Dhrubajyoti may consider Bengali as Migrant in Assam, I'm not. He > >> just > >> >> > >> forgot that present Assam is a > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Conglomeration of different region and part of provinces of > >> British India. A > >> >> > >> Part of Bengal also transferred to Assam. He has referred to > >> Bengali of > >> >> > >> Cachar, who thinks Cachar is not part of Assam and they use the > >> word Assam > >> >> > >> for Brahmaputra valley . He hate Bengali so he referred Bengali > >> only . We > >> >> > >> often hear Whenever an Assamese talk about Assam he means > >> Brahmaputra > >> >> > >> Vally. Only the other day AGP MPs raise question in Parliament > >> about the > >> >> > >> big river dam in Assam. They talked about Dams in Arunachal > >> Pradeh. didn't > >> >> > >> uttered a word about Tipaimukh Dam. Being a college teacher I > >> often hear my > >> >> > >> college say Assam has only three University, GU, DU and TU . They > >> just > >> >> > >> forget that there is another University call Assam university at > >> Silchar. > >> >> > >> I'm not citing these example to finds faults . I'd just request > >> you all to > >> >> > >> find the reason behind such people's psycho. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Whole India is infected with such problems and very few want it to > >> be > >> >> > >> treated positively. I know a good number of Barak Velley People > >> are > >> >> > >> waiting eagerly for separation of NC Hills and Karbi Anglong from > >> Assam, so > >> >> > >> that they get it without any blood loss. That will be another > >> Bengali lead > >> >> > >> province that way. People like Dhruba Jyoti are only working for > >> that dream > >> >> > >> comes true! > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> That's why , I don't consider post colonial India is an ideal > >> country to be > >> >> > >> happy with. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Each and Every minority here lives with a guilty feeling . As if > >> he is > >> >> > >> living in a foreign land. Each and every Bengali, be he or she a > >> chauvinist > >> >> > >> or a democrat like me has to always produce certificate for his > >> loyalty > >> >> > >> towards mejortity group.Or they require a supporter like Chandanda > >> or > >> >> > >> Uttamda or Ramda to feel secured . > >> >> > >> If we get compel to follow people like Sri Deka and his or her > >> ideals , I > >> >> > >> don't know if Axom will be 'Xunor Axom' in near future , but, > >> India will be > >> >> > >> a worst country to feel proud about and live in. > >> >> > >> I know a good number of Barak Velley People are waiting eagerly > >> for > >> >> > >> separation of NC Hills and Karbi Anglong from Assam, so that they > >> get it > >> >> > >> without any blood loss. That will be another Bengali lead province > >> that way. > >> >> > >> People like Dhruba Jyoti are only working for that dream comes > >> true! > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Dhruba Jyoti has said he can read Bengali,Just read a quotation > >> from Old Mad > >> >> > >> Rabindranath in My signature ,""??????????? ??????? ???? ?????? > >> ????? > >> >> > >> ???????, ????? ????? ?????? ??????" > >> >> > >> Sushanta Kar > >> >> > >> ??????? ?? > >> >> > >> ??????????, ???? > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> ???? ????????: > >> >> > >> http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com > >> >> > >> http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com > >> >> > >> http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com > >> >> > >> ???? ???????? '????????' > >> >> > >> http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com > >> >> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now > >> >> > >> ??? ???????????? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ???: > >> >> > >> http://www.xobdo.org/ > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> "??????????? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???????, ????? ????? ?????? > >> ??????" > >> >> > >> ??????????? > >> >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >> >> > >> assam mailing list > >> >> > >> assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> >> > > > >> >> > >_______________________________________________ > >> >> > > assam mailing list > >> >> > > assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > assam mailing list > >> >> > assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > assam mailing list > >> >> > assam@assamnet.org > >> >> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> assam mailing list > >> >> assam@assamnet.org > >> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> assam mailing list > >> >> assam@assamnet.org > >> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > assam mailing list > >> > assam@assamnet.org > >> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> assam mailing list > >> assam@assamnet.org > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Sushanta Kar > > সুশান্ত কর > > তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম > > > > আমার ব্লগগুলি: > > http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com > > http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com > > http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com > > আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' > > http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com > > http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now > > > > "স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা" > > রবীন্দ্রনাথ > > _______________________________________________ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
