At 9:31 AM -0700 6/11/05, Rajib Das wrote:
When a bad programmer sets out to create a NEW
software program, ALL you get is garbage.
What part of "garbage everywhere" is so hard to
fathom?
*** How about a good programmer? Is he already under commitment to
the powers that be and thus unavailable? Or is it that the program in
place is already at the cutting edge, and thus no meaningful
improvement is foreseeable?
Also WHO is deciding the QUALITY of the programmer, and determining
it is bad, or will be bad? Does this judge have a record to wave as a
reliable judge, either from past record or from demonstrated
expertise?
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 6:39 PM -0700 6/10/05, Rajib Das wrote:
>Somehow I fail to understand, how without this
>"cloning" (in a sovereign entity) this is going to
be
>any different.
*** Clone of a defective system is more defective
progeny. What part
of 'garbage in, garbage out' hard to fathom?
>
>The "cloning" effect not only touches the GOA,
>evidently it touches the militants and the
>intellectuals as well.
>
>Nothing selective about this cloning effect in
Assam.
>
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >If 'cloning' was the problem, how is that we
don't
>> read about stark
>> >examples from other states?
>>
>> *** That is because you are selective about what
you
>> want to read or
>> hear, Ram. In fact this kind of thing is the
rule
>> and not the
>> exception. But I will be sure to post something
>> like this for your
>> info., when I come across one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 4:35 PM -0500 6/10/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>> >C'da,
>> >
>> >> *** Incisive, steel trap minded observation
Ram.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the compliment, though throughly
>> undeserving.
>> >
>> >>Goes to prove, once again, that the Assamese
are
>> unfit to govern themselves.
>> >
>> >That is your unique way of gross
generalizations.
>> No, I was only
>> >referring to the GOA. The Assamese (people)
were in
>> fact the victims.
>> >
>> >It is the GOA that is not able to govern. A
>> situation like this where
>> >someone is held in Tezpur for 58 years, never
>> produced for trial - ie
>> >the individual was basically forgotten by the
GOA.
>> And its not just
>> >one case, there were 5.
>> >
>> >It is no use saying that the GOA has learned
this
>> from the Center,
>> >because I seriously doubt, if you will find
such
>> cases in other
>> >states, where prisoners and inmates are
forgotten
>> by the authorities
>> >to fall between the cracks and ignored for
>> eternity.
>> >
>> >If 'cloning' was the problem, how is that we
don't
>> read about stark
>> >examples from other states? Wern't they also
cloned
>> in the GOI's
>> >image.
>> >
>> >--Ram
>> >
>> >On 6/10/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >And in the end, as usual, it took an
outside
>> body (the NHRC) to point
>> >> >this out to the GOA.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *** Incisive, steel trap minded observation
Ram.
>> Goes to prove, once
>> >> again, that the Assamese are unfit to govern
>> themselves.
>> >>
>> >> But of course the system of justice of
>> desi-demokrasy and the Assam
>> >> Govt cloned in the likeness of Indian Govt.
has
>> nothing to do with
>> >> anything.
>> >>
>> >> Hurricane force spinning Ram, that is what
is
>> :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 3:27 PM -0500 6/10/05, Ram Sarangapani
wrote:
>> >> >C'da,
>> >> >
>> >> >This is indeed shocking and really
disturbing.
>> I am little confused by
>> >> >the term 'under-trial'. Are these people
>> awaiting a trial, once they
> >> >> >are held mentally competent to do so?
>> >> >
>> >> >In any case this is just horrible.
>> >> >
>> >> >> NHRC has come upon a case of five
>> undertrials who have spent decades
>> >> >> in jail
>> >> >
>> >> >This is a serious blot on successive
>> governments in Assam, the local
>> >> >administration of mental institutions etc.
>> >> >
>> >> >And in the end, as usual, it took an
outside
>> body (the NHRC) to point
>> >> >this out to the GOA. If they did not, the
GOA,
>> would have never have
>> >> >on their own to either point this out or
take
>> steps to remedy it.
>> >> >
>> >> >--Ram
>> >> >
>> >> >On 6/10/05, Chan Mahanta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> Torture that goes beyond madness
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, JUNE 10,
2005
>> 09:03:45 PM ]
>> >> >> Surf 'N' Earn -Sign innow
>> >> >> NEW DELHI: If any proof of the complete
>> failure of criminal justice
>> >> >> system was needed, here are not one but
five
>> examples.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> NHRC has come upon a case of five
>> undertrials who have spent decades
>> >> >> in jail. One of them has spent 54 years
in
> > jail, while the other four
>> >> >> have prison experience of more than
three
>> decades each.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All are now inmates of a mental
hospital in
>> Tezpur.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> An upset commission on Friday asked
>> inspector general (prisons),
>> >> >> Assam, and the state's chief secretary
to
>> respond within two weeks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The matter was reported to the
commission
>> by its rapporteur Chaman
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