On 17 Oct 2009 at 14:06, Jean-Pierre van Melis wrote:

> The following observations made me conclude the message is being refused by 
> Qmail.
>  - ASSP accepts message in log
>  - qmail doesn't have an entry it has accepted the message
>  - The sender repeats sending this message every 20 minutes
>  - ASSP's debug log mentions the line "13:46:20 <doing <451 See 
> http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.>>"
>  - This message is not generated by ASSP
>  - That website specifically mentions qmail having such a 451

If qmail is sending a 451 message it is not rejecting it but replying 
with a temporary error.  The sender will repeat the message, but it 
will never be accepted.  I don't know at what point (after helo, data 
or where?) qmail is sending it but that has to be the wrong code in 
this instance.

> If ASSP's log would reflect the "250 response" to the sender it would be 
> missing in this message...
> At first glance I thought the message was accepted because of the "Message 
> OK" so I started investigating the trail afterwards.
> 
> It's true.. Without ASSP I wouldn't have any logging about this message, but 
> now ASSP is telling me the message is accepted.. Well, I thought it was 
> telling me that with "Message OK". Apparently I was wrong there.

All it is saying is that ASSP didn't find a problem with it.

If your MTA decides not to store it and not log it either, that seems 
to me a weakness with qmail.

paul


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