P Floding;169832 Wrote: > This is where it gets tricky! > It is unreasonable to demand that manufacturers can prove > (substantiate) subjective claims. Just like no-one can really say why a > Porsche is better than an MX-5 (if we pretend they have the same 0-60 > times and top speed for the sake of the argument). > > I much prefer subjective marketing BS to fantasy technical explanations > with no connection to reality. > > There is a huge industry of people telling others what, mostly > subjectively, is "the best"! > > When it comes to hi-fi my pet theory (a "truth" for me) is that > measured performance is so unreliable because measurement is seldom > done in a real context. If you can actually extract the "on paper > performance" from a component you should get good sound, but I believe > many components fail to deliver when put in real systems.
Yeah agreed. When someone says "this sounds really great, much better than everything else", I think "yeah right, to your ears maybe. I'll listen to it and decide for myself thanks". But when they say "it has 0.00001% THD, 1.32ps jitter, S/N of 723dB", I think "huh? That has no meaning in my context. I will be listening to music on it, not measuring it." I recognise that some equipment (especially digital) can have some things measured where there is clearly a better/worse scale, and that there is an obligation on manufacturers to ensure that there are no really poor design flaws in a product. I only buy from manufacturers (and dealers) that I trust not to fob off poor product. But the bottom line, for me, is that fluffy pseudoscience marketing should stick to shampoo and avoid audio. Honest marketing, like no-risk trials, that's what we like :) (And I do like how this thread has got totally off-topic. OP: this is how human interaction works. It's like having a conversation. You can always gently steer it back, but a bit of randomness never hurt anyone :) ) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31533 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
