opaqueice;352224 Wrote: > You regard an internet search for copyright-constrained ABX samples as > evidence that "most" ABX testing uses short samples, and from there > conclude that the ABX protocol is invalid? Don't be silly. > > It is true that there is evidence that some differences are easier to > hear when switches take place relatively quickly. In fact I can > confirm that this is true based on my own experience - it's much easier > to hear the differences between high and medium rate MP3s, for example, > if you first find a passage where you hear it, and then focus in on > that passage a switch back and forth relatively rapidly. However I > have no reason to think -all- differences are easier to hear that way, > and often when audiophiles to ABX testing it's in fact impossible to > switch rapidly (if you're comparing two sets of cables, for example), > so I would say it's probably that most such tests are -not- done that > way. > > > > Of -course- it's not! Those are two tests out of thousands - and > you're trying to conclude something about MOST abx tests? > > > > PART of their results agree (the part that show that the HFS alone are > inaudible), and PART disagree. > > > > I'll try one more time. Everyone seems to agree that HFS alone are > inaudible based on PET brain scans etc. But these guys find that > HFS+LFS is different from just LFS. So there is something very bizarre > and non-linear going on if they are right. My point was that we have no > way of knowing whether that bizarre non-linear thing is in their > equipment or in people's heads. > > To summarize: we know that neither brains nor gear respond to HFS > alone, but that brains+gear respond to HFS+LFS differently than to LFS > alone. But we don't - and can't - know whether that difference is due > to brains or due to gear. The fact that gear doesn't respond to HFS > alone is irrelevant, because neither do brains!
Mr O - with the greatest of respect (and that is NOT a phrase I use lightly) - could I beg you to apply your brain power to my question and to take your discussions on the ABX issue with Nick to another thread. I need both of your different wisdoms applied to my problem - sorry to appear selfish, but I'm sure you know what I mean? Best regards Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53345 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
