edwardthern wrote: > Talking about perception is never a problem with normal people. > > People talk about food at restaurants, movies, books, vacation spots > etc. all the time.....no measurement data needed, only perceptional > views. > > The moment you people bring up measurements you sound ridiculous. > Imagine people using your logic for the aforementioned topics. > Joe: You know I really like Sam's Burgers, they taste so good and they > fill me up too, I can hardly even eat one. Unlike Smith's burgers, they > seem greasy and make me feel bad. > Mark: What?!?!?! What kind of measurement data do you have that proves > Sam's meat is any different than Smith's meat? In fact the buns are the > same too, flour, eggs, yeast etc. All this Sam's burgers, Smith's > burgers crap is crazy. You make assumptions but have no real data to > back it up!!
First, back in the kitchen, good chefs still measure things. That's why the food you like is consistently good.And the best cooks understand the scientific basis for choosing, combining and processing the ingredients. Just having the original recipe doesn't guarantee good results if the cook doesn't understand the cooking process. With respect to audio, if ONLY the subjective types limited their statements to "I like this better than that", there wouldn't be much conflict. However, when one reads any of the audiophile press, you will see endless discussions of technical detail in support of their subjective conclusions. That's where most objectivists part ways -- they are tired of hearing endless technical blather in support of someone else's subjective opinion. There's another aspect, too. For whatever reason, subjectivists seem loathe to accept the fact that there are any non-audio subliminal factors influencing their judgment. I find it quite ironic that subjectivists often expend an enormous amount amount of time denying subjective influences while expounding to great length on the technical aspects , sometimes BS and sometimes not, that they believe support their conclusions. As I've often noted before, I'm the single biggest variable in my system. I accept that my mood, other things that have happened that day and my physical state at the moment have far more impact on my listening enjoyment than which brand of DAC chip I have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106575 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles