The problem, of course, is about the very subjectivity you want to talk about. As anyone with the slightest knowledge about perception and conclusions knows, direct reported experience can be one of the worst ways of getting to truth.
It's why "eyewitness" testimony in courts almost always needs to defer to actual measurements and physical evidence. Multiple witnesses to the same event can have completely different perceptions of what actually happened, even while convinced that what they saw (and heard) is accurate. They report their "truth" as accurately as they can, but this "truth" is as often as not simply not really true. This goes in spades for contexts where there is gain or benefit to some party, and observations/perceptions can be shaped through social influence -- like having one's perceptions taken as serious and valid by others with similar interests. In the absence of grounding outside of "subjective judgment", these kinds of discussions are nothing more than ramblings. I was going to use another phrase including the word "circle", but that would be rude. If we're going to talk about subjective experience as a valid approach to getting at what's true, we need to make sure that all the relevant variables are controlled. This means blind judgments, and all of the kinds of things that are discussed above. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106575 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles