If you want AST's set at Lake Keepit, start talking to Dave Shorter, he is the one making those decisions. The Nationals rules allow it, the local rules have disallowed it.
Cheers, ROSS From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of rolf a. buelter Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 7:19 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class competition Hi Tim, But that's why we split it into club and sports and enable two different tasks, that was anyway the reason brought forward by Hank amongst others. Rgds - Rolf _____ From: tshir...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:11:19 +1100 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class competition Hi Phil, The main reason that all the task types are listed there is that there is only one set of rules covering all Nationals classes - multiclass, club class and juniors - so this is the only place they can go. The idea was that then the individual events would specify in local rules which task types apply to their particular contests. Traditionally club class did not set AST because of the wide range of glider types and performances competing. The tasks would either be too short for the higher performance ships or too long for the lower performance. AAT (and before that, POST) tasks were considered fairer. Even with the restriction in performance to international rules there is still a wide range, from LS8 to Libelle. Clearly the faster gliders would have a huge advantage by being able to use the optimum part of the day, if a fixed length task was set. While the handicap deals with some of that, it can't fix it all, especially if outlandings occur because slower gliders can't get home. It's come up a few times at pilots meetings. Usually briefly. Cheers Tim From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Phil Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:52 To: Aus-soaring Subject: [Aus-soaring] Club Class competition I'm looking forward to the Club Class nationals in Lake Keepit next month. Dave Shorter sent out some information which included the rules. I was looking at task types and found the following. The national rules on task setting state the following: 22.3 Task Types may be chosen from any two or more of the types specified in the authorised attachments to these Rules provided that the chosen task type: is authorised by NCC for the contest and is published in the Local Rules (The authorised attachment lists three types of tasks: Assigned Speed, Assigned area and Run tasks) The Local rules state that 11. TASKS: Tasks shall be Assigned Area Tasks. Not withstanding the confusing wording of rule 22.3 I was wondering why Assigned Speed Tasks aren't used in Club Class? At the world Club Class they are, and since Australia changed the rules several years ago so that only gliders that meet the world club class handicaps are eligible couldn't we also do the same. I ask because without a doubt in my opinion AST is still the most fun sort of racing. The limited handicap range makes the task type feasible where previously it wasn't. Does anybody out there know why we don't and would they be willing to enlighten me? Curious Philip Ritchie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.4/2416 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00 _____ Click Here View <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/> photos of singles in your area
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