At 10:36 AM 13/11/2009, you wrote:
Mark said:

"....it was dead easy to get my Aussie PPL recognized by the USA FAA and have a USA PPL issued at no cost and no flight test based on my Aussie qualifications."

Was it really that easy?


Yes it is that easy. Or used to be. I have a US PPL (G) which I got in 1983 at Reno when the FAA used to recognise Australian gliding qualifications.

In 1996 after I got a PPL I walked into the San Diego office of the FAA at Montgomery Field, showed them the licence they had issued, showed them my Australian PPL and they upgraded the US licence to single engine day VFR on the spot. The guy made me promise to get a through cehckout from whoever was going to let me fly their aircraft.

Mike





Compare with CASA.

http://casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_90024#validation


Chris


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Borgelt" <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilot licence


At 07:53 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote:
Could not agree more with below, it's a increasingly international world,
many pilots want to experience flying overseas, it was dead easy to get my
Aussie PPL recognized by the USA FAA and have a USA PPL issued at no cost
and no flight test based on my Aussie qualifications. When I tried the same
with my glider ratings, forget it they said as they don't recognize them.
Why is there such resistance by the GFA to having an internationally
recognized glider licence (ICAO) as many other countries do including the
USA? My preference would be to have CASA administer Glider licences the same
as occurs in the USA and many other countries and as far as I can see with
no more hassle or cost then through the GFA system, probably less in fact.
Might even raise the standard of flying and also make some sense to
potential glider pilots who at the moment have trouble understanding how it
all is supposed to work.

Regards

Mark

Mark,

The resistance by the GFA is based on mindless adherence to the historical order of things.

If we had a CASA licence good for use overseas it would have to be good for use in Australia. Imagine a CASA PPL(G) stamped NOT FOR USE IN AUSTRALIA. I'm sure that would impress the hell out of another ICAO contracting state who would quite reasonably say "if you won't honour it in your own country why should we?"

We are only having this thread because back in 2002/3 Bob Hall and Henk Meertens went to the then Minister, John Anderson and killed the CASA proposed Recreational Private Pilot Licence for gliding. Aided and abetted by Paul Middleton of the RAAus who did the same for ultralights. Thanks guys. It was probably the single greatest act of bastardry in the history of sport aviation in Australia. You're champions at it.

The proposed RPPL would have had ratings which could be added to and if you had a PPL or higher those ratings would have carried over. The RPPL wasn't an ICAO licence but the CASA PPL is and to fly O/S you would have had to upgrade to the PPl although in the case of the US you could probably argue that the medical standard for the RPPL(G) was the same as for the US PPL(G) although note the US doesn't have licences, they have pilot certificates.

Now, I have it on good authority that the RPPL proposal is still on the table. If the GFA really wants to help Australian pilots fly O/S and isn't just blowing smoke, they could go to CASA, withdraw their objection and ask CASA to fast track the process. I really don't care what the dimwits in the RAAus do but as you say Mark, a CASA licence might actually improve the standard there too.

Of course once you have a CASA PPL(G) then you wouldn't be required to be a member of GFA and a club (just as when you have a PPL you don't have to join AOPA or an aero club although you may choose to do so if you want to) and we couldn't have that could we? Heavens the parasites running the GFA might have to justify their existence by actually selling their services to the "members" on the open market instead of, fascist like, using the power of the state to enforce "membership" in a private company.

Mike




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