Hello all
 
I noticed that the subject of ASI labelling on new gliders is coming up
every few months or so.
 
To put members of this newsgroup at ease it should be said that Schleicher
already complies 
with the requirement after Ian Mc Phee made a corresponding suggestion some
time ago. 
 
New Schleicher gliders come with ASIs which indicate 20 kts above Vne
(usually 170 kts). 
 
Kind regards to all
 
Bernard Eckey
10 Antigua Grove
West Lakes 5021
South Australia
Ph/Fax 08-84492871
Mobile 0412 981 204
ec...@internode.on.net 
 

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From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Grietje
Wansink
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2013 5:28 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] For sale ASH-31


Glider is EASA approved, instruments are EASA standard.

For safety reasons, we don't allow pilots to self launch when hiring a
glider from us. 

Grietje



On 9/09/13 9:41 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote:


At 08:19 AM 9/09/2013, you wrote:


And notice Winter ASI VNE (red radial) seems to be 150kts or 152kts.
Strictly speaking GFA require for issue if Australian C of A an ASI with
markings on ASIs 20 kts over the VNE.

To all considering new gliders ask the factory for an ASI with a mark at
170kts as have been provided by Achim Winter for more than 10 years and
costs noting extra (just ask)

Ian McPhee
PS several other makers are missing this ASI mark issue also but JS1 seem to
be getting it right.
.   



So does the 170kt ASI just move the stop a little further around or is the
whole dial scale changed? It doesn't seem to be a standard product on the
Winter website.

So who dreamed up this requirement? Last I looked at CS22 the glider is
designed to 10% over placarded Vne, test flown during certification to 5%
over. An ASI in service that reads to 5% over Vne would seem to me to be
adequate which at 152Kts Vne and 160 kts max reading on the ASI this one
seems to be.

So is this ASI acceptable to EASA? If so why do we have a different
requirement? No doubt our Australian air is "different".

Also interested to know why 95% of the launches were by aerotow? Engine not
working? 

Mike








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