On 02/08/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> secondly who buys a PVR that DRMs your recording?!
>
> My friends tell me that their Sky+ boxes are highly restrictive.


Again, who (that is assuming sanity)  buys the ridiculously overpriced
monstrosity that is Sky+ ?

> On that note, what type
> > of Pirate (Arrgh, me hearties) downloads DRMed Music?
>
> People are often falling foul of FairPlay DRM because they want to
> have more/different devices than Apple deem necessary. That's a
> regrettable side effect though; the people that the restrictions
> attack are the novice users doing friend-to-friend copying, and one of
> the friends in that case is 'downloading.'


I don't even own an iPod (over-priced junk for people who care about style
over substance; a bit like the iPhone), and I know how to remove FairPlay
DRM. I expect that everyone else on this list does aswell.

Personally I think that' s a deliberate move by apple in order to please
rights holders, whilst annoying consumers as little as possible. And seeing
as iTunes has started selling DRM free music with EMI, I think that there is
no point targeting apple over DRM; as much as I dislike their products.

> If your anti-DRM targets are bittorrent and PVRs you're aiming in the
> > wrong direction.
>
> Savvy users will have no problem getting unrestricted files; no one is
> debating that (any more) - but its important to defend novice users,
> who are the victims here.


And Savvy programmers will create one click programs that will strip MS DRM
from the BBCs On Demand content for everyone else within a few months,
maximum.

Vijay.

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