On Jan 24, 2008 3:31 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> "broadcasters - don't publish the exact start times of programmes anywhere",
> which is not quite

Can I assume the word missing from the end of your sentence was "true"?

If you can show me a broadcast schedule for a major channel which
publicly publishes, in advance, the exact start times of their
programmes (eg Never Better, Tonight at 2202 on BBC Two), then I'll
gladly eat a copy of the Radio Times[1].

[...]

> > In summary: blame Microsoft, not the BBC.
> > (Or at least, if you're going to blame the BBC, you may as well also
> > direct some ire at Red Bee Media, their listings subsiduary BDS, ITV
> > Network Centre, Channel 4, Sky, etc, etc.)
>
> I'm not trying to BLAME anyone here, I'm trying to find out where the EPG
> information gets nobbled and make an attempt to get some to "acknowledge
> mistakes" and provide  "accuracy" in the data.
>
> If I can get a signed letter from someone at the BBC saying that it's
> Microsoft's fault, then I can go an staple it to the "Memorandum of
> Understanding" and get MS to sort it out.

It's not being nobbled. The information you want isn't out there. It
may exist internally, but it's not for public consumption. The
standard method[2] is to get billed timings from the schedule in
advance, and then look for when that event's 'running' in the EIT.
>From what you've said so far, Microsoft have chosen to do it a
different way in Media Center.

> As far as I can tell with the Media Center, the DVB-T reception (or DVB-S as
> an alternative) is too abstracted from the PVR functions.  It took quite a
> lot of effort to get them to recognise the damn radio stations!

...so do you think the broadcasters should try to make up for your
media player's shortcomings? Or should Microsoft perhaps make their
software more aware of the way things are done around here?

 - martin


[1] Other listings magazines are available.
[2] cf. the 'digital tick' specs to which I referred in an earlier message.
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