I agree.  We should invite him on a ride next year- and provide him with the 
necessary loaner gear to stay comfortable in the cold.
It could be a fun challenge- to see who can get Soglin on his bike the latest 
into the winter.

-india

On 04/06/11, Mark Shahan   wrote:
> Bikies,
> 
> Actually, Soglin is an avid cyclist and I have seen him on rides to Paoli as 
> recently as a  year or two ago.  Soglin was the first to start building bike 
> paths in Madison, the law park path being an example, and other bike 
> infrastructure.  That said, there are things he has done and said regarding 
> bikes that I have disagreed with but the same is true of Mayor Dave.  Also on 
> Soglin's blog is criticism of pedestrian islands on Glenway that 
> 
> don't allow enough space for a bike and car to pass the islands 
> simultaneously, a criticism I share.  (Note: Mike Rewey & I were able to 
> persuade Transportation Engineering not to put an island at the intersection 
> of the SW path and Glenway because the island would not have been wide enough 
> for a bicycle and would have prevented using the painted area in the middle 
> of the road as a bike left turn lane).  I think a better way to approach 
> Soglin on winter biking is to reach out and try to educate him on the issue.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark N. Shahan                               ------  __o
> 607 Piper Drive                          -------  _`\<,_
> Madison, WI 53711-1338             ---- (*)/ (*)
> (608) 274-9367
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Strawser <[email protected] 
> <[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > A friend posted to FB on March 30, 2011 (apologies to my friend, who I do 
> > not think subscribes to this list, for copying a post open only to her 
> > friends to a public list serv). I have blind cc&#39;d her. If she allows me 
> > to link her FB post to this list, I will.
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> > 
> > "Soglin still believes that &#39;people who bike in the winter should have 
> > their head examined.&#39; He told me this morning, when he was campaigning 
> > outside of the Co-op. This was just before the GM came out to speak to him, 
> > I think she asked him to leave."
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > So while Soglin’s previous comment about shooting cyclists may have been 
> > “tongue-in-cheek” (“kidding on the square”? 
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kidding%20on%20the%20Square)...
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > I think our new (old) mayor’s attitude towards cycling as transportation 
> > needs changing, so I don&#39;t think we are actually beating a dead horse, 
> > literally or figuratively.
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > chuck
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > From: [email protected](javascript:main.compose() 
> > [mailto:[email protected](javascript:main.compose()] On 
> > Behalf Of Robert F. Nagel
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:29 PM
> > To: VIOLA, INDIA R
> > Cc: [email protected](javascript:main.compose()
> > Subject: Re: [Bikies] Remember This?
> > 
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> > 
> > i think he addressed that comment on his blog by noting that it was tongue 
> > in cheek or whatever in parentheses, as if it wasn&#39;t apparent that he 
> > didn&#39;t intend to be taken literally; seems like you might be beating a 
> > dead horse, although i do not believe that you are actually beating a dead 
> > horse; sometimes we use colorful language, and it&#39;s ok, although of 
> > course language does not really have color
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > ---
> > Robert F. Nagel
> > [email protected]
> > www.nagel-law.com
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
> > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
> > Madison, WI  53703
> > 608-255-1501(tel:608-255-1501) office
> > 
> 
> > 608-255-1504(tel:608-255-1504) fax
> > 608-438-9501(tel:608-438-9501) cell
> > 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:07 PM, India Rose Viola <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Has Soglin been asked to recant or clarify his intentions with that stupid 
> > comment?  I think his comment reflects a moment of poor judgment on his 
> > part, but am wondering what his actual stance is on bike advocacy, 
> > improving bike infrastructure in Madison, retaining funding for biking etc.
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > -india
> > 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/06/11, Robin   wrote:
> > > Well, this being a bike advocacy list (ring your brass bells people!)
> > > having a reactionary doofus like Soggy-Dog-Doglin as mayor is a little
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > frightening.
> > >
> > > Am I off base here?
> > >
> > > Maybe we should go back to discussing car horns during protests around
> > > the square?
> > >
> > > PS- As mayor Soglin once chased a motorcyclists down on the beltline
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > at speeds up to 100 mph. Is Mayor/Officer Soglin going to run me over
> > > in his SUV next winter when he passes me on East Mifflin?
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Robert F. Nagel <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > > your point being?
> > > > ---
> > > > Robert F. Nagel
> > > > [email protected]
> > 
> 
> > > > www.nagel-law.com
> > 
> 
> > > > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
> > > > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
> > > > Madison, WI  53703
> > > > 608-255-1501 office
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > > 608-255-1504 fax
> > > > 608-438-9501 cell
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > >>
> > > >> Our new/old mayor, circa 2007:
> > > >> <http://www.waxingamerica.com/2007/12/bicycling-madis.html>
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > >>
> > > >> (Tongue in cheek mode ON) "The bicyclists who braved the week&#39;s 
> > > >> second
> > > >> storm should be taken out and shot."
> > > >>
> > > >> Awesome!
> > > >> --
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > >> Pointlessly blogging at www.robindavies.us
> > > >> Try something new every day.
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
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> > 
> 
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pointlessly blogging at www.robindavies.us
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > > Try something new every day.
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> > 
> > --
> > 
> 
> > 
> > India Viola
> > Stretton Lab
> > 115 Zoology Research
> > 1117 W. Johnson St.
> > Madison, WI 53706
> > 608.262.3336
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > "How can we learn from our mistakes if we don&#39;t first acknowledge 
> > them?" -Anonymous
> > 
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