This blog post has a good group of links on Soglin's public statements on 
biking http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/119303404.html

  For the details, I would defer to the Madison bikies who have more insight 
into his past practices as mayor.

 Tom

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Strawser
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:00 PM
To: Robert F. Nagel
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Remember This?

I'm saying that Soglin said this year, one week ago:
'people who bike in the winter should have their head examined'

Regardless of whether the mayor chooses to ride a bike in winter (or at all), I 
think it is a problem that he apparently questions the sanity of those of us 
who do choose to ride a bike in winter (as I have done for 13 winters with no 
real problems, other than having to detour around wrecks caused by operators of 
motor vehicles who discounted the safety issues of traveling by any mode in 
winter conditions).

If nothing else, it suggests that he will place a very low priority on 
important issues that encourage of discourage more cycling any time, but 
especially in winter, when, for example, the difference between plowing snow 
from bike paths and bike lanes can make the difference between someone riding a 
bike to work or driving a car.

what else will fall to the wayside? implementation of the recommendations of 
the platinum city bicycling committee report? I think we need to hear what the 
mayor's policy on cycling for transportation (in any season) is for the city he 
was just elected to run.


On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Robert F. Nagel 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
so, you're saying, you think he really thinks cyclists should be executed for 
riding after that second storm?

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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Strawser 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A friend posted to FB on March 30, 2011 (apologies to my friend, who I do not 
think subscribes to this list, for copying a post open only to her friends to a 
public list serv). I have blind cc'd her. If she allows me to link her FB post 
to this list, I will.

"Soglin still believes that 'people who bike in the winter should have their 
head examined.' He told me this morning, when he was campaigning outside of the 
Co-op. This was just before the GM came out to speak to him, I think she asked 
him to leave."

So while Soglin's previous comment about shooting cyclists may have been 
"tongue-in-cheek" ("kidding on the square"? 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kidding%20on%20the%20Square)...

I think our new (old) mayor's attitude towards cycling as transportation needs 
changing, so I don't think we are actually beating a dead horse, literally or 
figuratively.

chuck

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 On Behalf Of Robert F. Nagel
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:29 PM
To: VIOLA, INDIA R
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Remember This?

i think he addressed that comment on his blog by noting that it was tongue in 
cheek or whatever in parentheses, as if it wasn't apparent that he didn't 
intend to be taken literally; seems like you might be beating a dead horse, 
although i do not believe that you are actually beating a dead horse; sometimes 
we use colorful language, and it's ok, although of course language does not 
really have color
---
Robert F. Nagel
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
www.nagel-law.com<http://www.nagel-law.com/>
Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
Madison, WI  53703
608-255-1501<tel:608-255-1501> office
608-255-1504<tel:608-255-1504> fax
608-438-9501<tel:608-438-9501> cell
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:07 PM, India Rose Viola 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Has Soglin been asked to recant or clarify his intentions with that stupid 
comment?  I think his comment reflects a moment of poor judgment on his part, 
but am wondering what his actual stance is on bike advocacy, improving bike 
infrastructure in Madison, retaining funding for biking etc.

-india

On 04/06/11, Robin   wrote:
> Well, this being a bike advocacy list (ring your brass bells people!)
> having a reactionary doofus like Soggy-Dog-Doglin as mayor is a little
> frightening.
>
> Am I off base here?
>
> Maybe we should go back to discussing car horns during protests around
> the square?
>
> PS- As mayor Soglin once chased a motorcyclists down on the beltline
> at speeds up to 100 mph. Is Mayor/Officer Soglin going to run me over
> in his SUV next winter when he passes me on East Mifflin?
>
> R.
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Robert F. Nagel 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > your point being?
> > ---
> > Robert F. Nagel
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > www.nagel-law.com<http://www.nagel-law.com/>
> > Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor
> > 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001
> > Madison, WI  53703
> > 608-255-1501<tel:608-255-1501> office
> > 608-255-1504<tel:608-255-1504> fax
> > 608-438-9501<tel:608-438-9501> cell
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robin 
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our new/old mayor, circa 2007:
> >> <http://www.waxingamerica.com/2007/12/bicycling-madis.html>
> >>
> >> (Tongue in cheek mode ON) "The bicyclists who braved the week's second
> >> storm should be taken out and shot."
> >>
> >> Awesome!
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